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  1. #21
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    Binahel's Avatar
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    Sivesh Binahel
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    Ragnarok
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    in regards to the "people asked for it" argument together with "people always complain" arguments:

    These are obvious facts, someone might like this kind of content and someone might even ask for such a content, it doesn't in any way invalidate the point that this content is old and un-inventive. everybody complains about something new, the point in my opinion is that this type of content was already present in FFXI in some way or another and a lot of people complained back in time and the devs found ways to improve the game (with Level Sync, Abyssea and all the new things we got after years of a linear grind and people mentioned here too).
    The fact that we reverted back to a mindless Korean style grind (which some players might undoubtedly like) is a step back on the last years of mmo gaming and in this regard for me is a decision I fail to understand expecially if the rewards are what they are - basically glamours and a cool mount.
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  2. #22
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    I don't understand how this took a 1.5 years of development and no lessons learned from why Diadem was a disaster both times it launched. It'd be one thing if I understood why they did it. But the only thing I can take away is that they themselves just don't understand.
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  3. #23
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    Io Hausti
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghastly View Post
    This is why the devs say the community doesn't know what they want
    Give them dungeons and people complain
    Give them raids like omega, they complain
    Give them FATES, they complain
    Give them something like FFXI (Eureka) and they complain

    So basically we want nothing.
    They gave us diadem 1.0 and we complained.
    They gave us diadem 2.0 and we complained.
    Now its diadem 3.0 and guess what XD
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  4. #24
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    I dont understand it, really i dont.
    How does neverwinter online is able to deliver richer content (WITH DUBBING) in a free to play game, than multimilion dollar company that has over 12 mln players in the paid and sub based game with microtransactions in it? HOW?

    Why does warframe is able to develop their game despite not being as popular and free to play so much better than SE with their own skycrapper?

    Maybe WASTE less OUR money on next useless Final fantasy games and spend those resources into successful product we are playing right now, because none plays FF XV online, and i bet the giant part of budget gone into making that silly game.
    Fixing a network code for our game would be a good step or changing game engine entirely.
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    Last edited by Nedkel; 03-14-2018 at 10:37 AM.

  5. #25
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    Sivesh Binahel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hausti View Post
    They gave us diadem 1.0 and we complained.
    They gave us diadem 2.0 and we complained.
    Now its diadem 3.0 and guess what XD
    AHAHAH

    so true ♥
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  6. #26
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    because some people like it? me included
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  7. #27
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    Let us see just how long you will enjoy this new content, you'll be back, and you will complain.
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  8. #28
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    Where is the money of my Butt Slider content (???
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    Hi

  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghastly View Post
    This is why the devs say the community doesn't know what they want
    Give them dungeons and people complain
    Give them raids like omega, they complain
    Give them FATES, they complain
    Give them something like FFXI (Eureka) and they complain

    So basically we want nothing.
    Honestly, I don't think that the MMO players are even capable of being satisfied. The look at the bad of every little thing that's given to them. They never look at what they have and say, you know what? This is actually pretty cool. Thanks, dev team for putting forth an honest effort to keep things going with this game.

    No they feel that they have to complain about every little thing. They're never satisfied. Maybe once they grow up and have their own families and have responsibilities they'll take a look at things differently and say "hey, this actually pretty nice"
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    Thanks to eikomakimachi for the gif link

  10. #30
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    Momomi Momi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Suetan124 View Post
    Honestly, I don't think that the MMO players are even capable of being satisfied. The look at the bad of every little thing that's given to them. They never look at what they have and say, you know what? This is actually pretty cool. Thanks, dev team for putting forth an honest effort to keep things going with this game.

    No they feel that they have to complain about every little thing. They're never satisfied. Maybe once they grow up and have their own families and have responsibilities they'll take a look at things differently and say "hey, this actually pretty nice"
    That's not condescending at all. /s

    Shouldn't someone who has a family and responsibilities be even more scrutinizing? "You know what? This isn't worth my time. I have more important things to do."
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