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  1. #141
    Player
    Aniya_Estlihn's Avatar
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    Izayoi Niwa
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kewitt View Post
    What se needs to do...
    Bis raid
    2nd bis tomes
    3rd bis grind but not so bad that I can gear all my jobs to better then last raid gear in a timely manner. Not grind out one job over 3 to 4 weeks Becuase between tome capping savage raiding. Family work and friend not even including this isn't the only game I play to pass my time. Some weeks I have to fight myself just to get cap so I don't get behind.
    This is ideal but sadly they've fallen into this mindset that everything in a tier needs to require or take the same amount of time as getting a full set of gear from either tomes or progression raiding and it's just... wrong.
    (0)

  2. #142
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    Sindele's Avatar
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    Sindele Actoria
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 96
    The only way I could imagine there being something more is if there's a wealth of obscure NM triggers at low-mid levels that nobody's been able to find. Somehow, I doubt it. We've seen everything there is in the map and gone everywhere there is to go, and honestly, even if there was more - what would the point be of hiding it so deep? This isn't a brand new game, it doesn't take 5 hours to acclimate to how to play the 'grind in a corner' game.

    This is somehow the worst of both worlds - a deep grind could be okay if it had any nuance or interesting mechanics to it, but this isn't that kind of game. There's nothing to keep you occupied, really.
    (1)

  3. #143
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    KinnisonArc's Avatar
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    Grindania
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    Kinnison Arcspeed
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    For anyone used to spend lots of time on those korean mmo where you shout in chat LFG and form a party enough to blast AoEs left and right at the open world mobs, Eureka is pretty much like that. I have yet to explore the map fully to see if the place has more to offer but of course first I need to grind tons just to do that.
    (0)

  4. #144
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    ArcaviusGreyashe's Avatar
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    Character
    Sikah'to Tahqa
    World
    Ragnarok
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Stanelis View Post
    You mean always been a grind except in 2.0 when it wasn't and nobody complained about it ?
    Like ATMAs were any better... or books were any better... or lights were any better... Or lights once again were any better...
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  5. #145
    Player
    Cosine's Avatar
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    Sep 2013
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    Ul'dah
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    10
    Character
    Sine Cosine
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    Months of delays and it turns out it's even more flaccid, lazy, and thoughtless than Diadem. Amazing.
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  6. #146
    Player
    Skos's Avatar
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    Character
    Tater Thot
    World
    Moogle
    Main Class
    Machinist Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by ArcaviusGreyashe View Post
    Like ATMAs were any better... or books were any better... or lights were any better... Or lights once again were any better...
    They were because they gave you variety.

    This is literally killing the same overworld mob over and over again.
    There's no challenge. No variety. There's no fun.

    People don't realise the grind isn't the issue. It's a relic weapon. It's gonna be a grind.
    But at least previous relic grinds had some variety to it.

    You know what the scariest part is? The entire relic chains is going to be connected to Eureka and Eureka only. Hope you're ready to grind more Protean/Anemos Crystals for your future relic steps.
    (14)

  7. #147
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    Nedkel's Avatar
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    Character
    Chloe Lehideux
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 74
    Its really nice, a place where you could play with your FC and feel the atmosphere of the old mmorpg playstyle. Its the place where you could play all together.

    I like it.
    (4)

  8. #148
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Sep 2013
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    The Goblet - 16th Ward, Plot 55
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    4,418
    Character
    Deceptus Keelon
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Youkulm View Post
    We also didn't have to wait 6 months for 4.0's relic if this was all they were going to do.
    QFT

    /10char
    (2)
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

  9. #149
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    Arkdra's Avatar
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    Arkadya Dravena
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    Its really nice, a place where you could play with your FC and feel the atmosphere of the old mmorpg playstyle. Its the place where you could play all together.

    I like it.
    The old MMO's all died for a reason and that reason is most people came to their senses and realized they had better shit to do with their lives than waste it spending hours grinding feckless trash mobs to watch a bar incrementally fill up.
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  10. #150
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    KisaiTenshi's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Kisa Kisa
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 100
    Having played this for about 2 hours:

    - Wow, old school zerging where people just come in and killsteal (oh, ok, each mob is worth 50exp at level 1, 40exp if you're level 2), so the zergs just run over everything, and you get nothing or just 1 or 2 exp for that one shot you managed to fire off.

    - Either the damage is too low, or the exp is too low. Yeah I know this is probably another ridiculous spirit-weapon/relic type of timesink, but for the amount of time required to sink into this, this feels a bit insulting.

    - No drops from anything.


    Quote Originally Posted by KinnisonArc View Post
    For anyone used to spend lots of time on those korean mmo where you shout in chat LFG and form a party enough to blast AoEs left and right at the open world mobs, Eureka is pretty much like that. I have yet to explore the map fully to see if the place has more to offer but of course first I need to grind tons just to do that.
    It doesn't, the hardest monster I found was level 23 over to the WEST caverns.

    (3)
    Last edited by KisaiTenshi; 03-14-2018 at 12:13 AM.

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