Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[SenorPatty]

I had a really bizarre run of Hells' Lid the other day. We had a PLD who must have bought a secret new jump potion or something. They were level 70, had Ryumaku and normal Sigma gear with augmented Lost Allagan weapons but they had absolutely no idea how to tank.

That sounds odd. If they were using their aggro combo while in tank stance, there's no reason they should've lost aggro. Unless they had moments where they were not performing any actions. This is in regards to bosses though.

What about mob pulls? Did they just jump in without any aoe moves and just tried to enmity combo mobs one by one?

[Reckion]

A couple of days ago, before logging out I decided to go on one final queue. I got, on expert roullette Hell's Lid, whose comp was me as Bard, Paladin, a Summoner and a Conjurer... yup. You read that right. Not a White Mage. A Conjurer!! I could already see this was going to be a bumpy ride. The tank pretty much had to do small pulls otherwise he would die. Our Summoner, for some reason, kept standing in AOE's and dying, making the dungeon longer than usual.

The first boss took over 5 minutes long. I know this because I used Battle Voice twice, which is under a 2 minute CD, fyi, and when it ended it was under 60 seconds CD. Our Summoner kept dying over and over again on the boss AOE. I do not know why, but he just wouldn't move. I'm not talking about the melee 360 swing (that I would have understood) the first boss makes, I'm talking about the rocks and cone attack.

And then, after the boss, something amazing happened. The power went out in all of my district. Truth be told, I was actually glad that happened, and I feel sorry for the poor dps who had to replace me. I won't forget your sacrifice!

I'm not sure if that conjurer healer dude really did not know about job stones or if that was intentional. If it was, please form a full group that get a consensus about that, instead of wasting the time of other random people.

[Corue]

What about mob pulls? Did they just jump in without any aoe moves and just tried to enmity combo mobs one by one?

They used Flash as their pull move. Not once did I see a Shield Toss. What I'm thinking is that they used Flash to pull, used their aggro combo on each mob individually and just stood there waiting to use their aggro combo again when they lost hate.

[ExKage]

Oh god I'm in the same data center as a healer who doesn't know how to deal with Doom in WP HM. I bet you're the same healer who would let me die in Dun Scaith to the Deathgaze Doom.

Yesterday I queued into Weeping City as part of the Alliance Raid Roulette to level my BLM. Wiping City indeed. Mechanics on Arachne are a meh but hooo boy Forgall. One healer constantly died to Mega Death and many times too many were dead to even stand in the Punishing Ray red pillars. I stayed by the healer I saw knew their stuff because I didn't want to die to Hell Wind or Brand of the Fallen. I could count on that healer. This was a bad sign for Ozma and so we started to ask, who needs an explanation? What should we explain? etc.

Ozma did Ozma's thing. Three times. At least once a tank would pull before everyone was there. B's team blamed their tank and they kept starting the eventual downfall of the entire raid. One of our dps thought they could help B by going of there. Multiple people in B would just walk off or the tank would not pick a side on the platform, getting people hit. The vote abandon went through.

I finished Alliance Raid by going up through Syrcus Tower. Thankfully it's hard to actually wipe on ST.

[Skivvy]

While this has been a fun doom lesson, I think my favorite post in this thread relating to doom was the time a DPS was complaining about the healers in World of Darkness who were not removing the doom from Angra Mainyu (floating eye boss). They were going on about how they had 3 wipes on that boss, mostly to doom, as the healers refused to use Esuna. Also went on to comment on their Shire gear and how they were obviously jumpers. He managed 5 upvotes for that one!. Quality post.


For anyone not familiar with that boss and/or healing, there is a Doom move that is 100% avoidable, and it can't be removed with Esuna (have to stand on glowing pad to remove). So yeah, raid was failing to an avoidable mechanic, and the healers got the blame :X

[NephthysVasudan]

<doom doom doom doom doom>

Yep seen that...been there done that.
There's 3 varieties of Doom i've encountered...one that cant be removed at all which requires a mechanic...like a Pad.
One that can be Esuna'd.
And one that requires a full heal to take care of.

Truth be told - the number of healers who flat out refuse to use Esuna is horrifyingly stupid. - But even I know the difference between what can be Esuna'd and what can't be.

[HyoMinPark]

For anyone not familiar with that boss and/or healing, there is a Doom move that is 100% avoidable, and it can't be removed with Esuna (have to stand on glowing pad to remove). So yeah, raid was failing to an avoidable mechanic, and the healers got the blame :X

Don’t you know? You automatically blame the healer for everything! Even if it was your fault!

I bet those healers were DPSing, too! How dare they! They should have been using those GCDs for healing, and cleansing the uncleansable Doom that can be completely avoided!

[Tridus]

Don’t you know? You automatically blame the healer for everything! Even if it was your fault!

I bet those healers were DPSing, too! How dare they! They should have been using those GCDs for healing, and cleansing the uncleansable Doom that can be completely avoided!

A pro healer would know that if they stand between you and the eyeball, it breaks the gaze line of sight and you won't get the debuff. I've never gotten the debuff so my healers must always be doing this for me, even though I've never actually seen them do it because I keep turning around...

[Avatre]

Don’t you know? You automatically blame the healer for everything! Even if it was your fault!

I bet those healers were DPSing, too! How dare they! They should have been using those GCDs for healing, and cleansing the uncleansable Doom that can be completely avoided!

So you're saying they were like the WHM that was in the O4N that I got thrown into for my Mentor roulette last night? DPSing and healing...but not raising ANYONE, and begging for Mana Shift. Good thing I was on my RDM so I could stay at less than 3k MP almost the entire time.

[HyoMinPark]

So you're saying they were like the WHM that was in the O4N that I got thrown into for my Mentor roulette last night? DPSing and healing...but not raising ANYONE, and begging for Mana Shift. Good thing I was on my RDM so I could stay at less than 3k MP almost the entire time.

It was sarcasm. O.o And a jab at the last ~10 or so pages of this thread where we were literally debating how the Doom mechanic in Wanderer’s Palace HM worked with someone who thought it was a gaze attack when it’s not.

There’s nothing wrong with healing AND DPSing; it’s all about finding a balance between the two, which it sounds like that healer did not have.