Dev blog: New Feast rewards

[Sindele]

If it's not hard, why the big fuss about how important it is to never ever expand its availability?

You argue out of both sides of your mouth.

[HyoMinPark]

all of you that are arguing that the mount is too exclusive and unfair are literally being dumb hypocrits.

you complain about the mount being too exclusive, what about the trophy that only 6 people get in the world?????

Only one person gets the trophy. And the trophy was not something that the general community asked for. These mounts were. The base argument seems to be that all other mounts can be easily obtained well after their period of relevancy. If the developers want exclusivity, at least make it consistent.

As it stands, the mounts are really just there to try and incentivize people to do PvP more. Which is fine...but it works against the system when only 660 people can ever achieve it.

oh right you want the mount so you complain about it like the selfish casual you are.

Ah, more ad hominem.

[Crit]

Only one person gets the trophy. And the trophy was not something that the general community asked for. These mounts were. The base argument seems to be that all other mounts can be easily obtained well after their period of relevancy. If the developers want exclusivity, at least make it consistent.

As it stands, the mounts are really just there to try and incentivize people to do PvP more. Which is fine...but it works against the system when only 660 people can ever achieve it.

exclusive rewards for pvp is common for every mmorpg. if this specific community hates it then i don't know what to say, everything can't be made easy for whatever they want, the general community should be thankful the mount is even obtainable by players in the first place when other developers would ignore community opinion.

[Crit]

If it's not hard, why the big fuss about how important it is to never ever expand its availability?

put in the effort and you'll realize its not as hard or impossible as you think it is.

[Sindele]

exclusive rewards for pvp is common for every mmorpg.

And the boilerplate approach of 'one and done' exclusives has done nothing positive for them - both games and PVP scenes - for the better part of 15 years, either.

put in the effort and you'll realize its not as hard or impossible as you think it is.

I don't think it is, largely because the PVP scene in FF14 is virtually dead. But I'm also not vehemently defending their exclusivity as some kind of sacred thing that can't be impugned lest it unravel the entire existence of PVP in FFXIV, either.

[Dualgunner]

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[Mutemutt]

Increasing the number of people who can obtain the mount by 10x would be unfair how exactly?

I would say it's a bit unfair to make a change to the system to the detriment of those that enjoy the current the current system and the competitive spirit that it fosters in a mode aimed at said people to appease those that have little to no interest in that content but covet it's rewards.

[Dualgunner]

I would say it's a bit unfair to make a change to the system to the detriment of those that enjoy the current the current system and the competitive spirit that it fosters in a mode aimed at said people to appease those that have little to no interest in that content but covet it's rewards.

Which again, leaves PvPers as the only subclass of player (excluding legacy) that get their mitts on time gated exclusive items. Why is that fair, when raiders put just as much effort in (if not more) trying for world first, or clearing as fast as possible?

[Mutemutt]

Which again, leaves PvPers as the only subclass of player (excluding legacy) that get their mitts on time gated exclusive items. Why is that fair, when raiders put just as much effort in (if not more) trying for world first, or clearing as fast as possible?

I would say the main reason for that is that it's the only mode that was explicitly created to be competitive with it's own limited time competitions, hence it features a competitive reward structure.

[Istaru]

I would say it's a bit unfair to make a change to the system to the detriment of those that enjoy the current the current system and the competitive spirit that it fosters in a mode aimed at said people to appease those that have little to no interest in that content but covet it's rewards.

The same competitive spirit employed by win traders and bots that are in the top ranks? Don’t act like the Feast is something special. It’s just as big of a mess as the rest of this game. The value of everyone else’s efforts are reduced to zero by SE, the Feast should be the same. People can claim whatever special snowflake status privledge you want. It doesn’t make you special. Sorry. Not sorry.

I’m sure win traders and bots have the utmost of interest in the content. How about the fact the many people play for a couple of weeks, get their ranking and then split until the very end of the season, only coming back if their rank is threatened. Skipping out on most of the season shows a huge interest in the content. Spare me.

When they take care of botting, win trading and add in rank decay, I will start to care about that dumpster fire again, and then I might agree that skill gets you in the top ranks. Until then, you’re talking out of your butt.

To everyone who says it’s about skill, bite me. You have people in the top ranks who barely clear a 40% win rate. Best of the best right there.

To people who call the seasons “limited time events “, I’d find a new term. We have limited time events called “Seasonal Events” in the game already. We know where their rewards end up. Don’t give SE any ideas.

The Moogle outfit shows that they have no problem removing exclusivity even when it was expressly stated.

I will finish with this.

As much as I disagree with every single defensive thing used by defenders of this clustermess, I don’t think SE should bring them back and give them out. They were supposed to be exclusive to that thing and I feel that companies should say what they do and do what they say.

I also feel that they should remove all time exclusive rewards from the Feast besides the trophies and go to a token system instead where that token could be used to get a current or past reward. That way the same “effort” is always required and the special snowflake crybabies can feel extra special that their monumental effort is not devalued by SE like the efforts of everyone else.