Dev blog: New Feast rewards

[RiyahArp]

Eh, it's SE, they love to waste their resources on content only useful/available to a few people anyways. Nothing surprising by now.

[Crescents]

heres a thought, why not add them to achievement vendor after a few patches,.

Or maybe not. I dont see why you should be able to buy something for tokens that people had to compete for why bother competing at all if they'll just give it to you anyway. You wont see that happen as hard as SE is trying to make feast into an Esport.
Instead of just giving away something that people worked hard for why not add rewards like these to be something you could buy with wolf collars you know the things you get as a consolation prize for actually competing?

Making it more obtainable than 100 people ever seems to be a good idea but the idea that someone could be walking around with the lone wolf coat without EVER setting foot in PvP? its ridiculous things like this are a status symbol the same way meteor survivor marks are do you think we should put those in the achievement shop as well?

[Kexiana]

I'm a long time pvper. I've not had trouble placing in top 100 before... but this I wish it was in the GS. :/

[Aviars]

oh hey a thing i will never see in game, at all.


heres a thought, why not add them to achievement vendor after a few patches, with a recolour. that way pvp can have this exclusive mount for a while, then everyone can enjoy things no-one uses anymore.

and before anyone complains about losing exclusive mounts, Fat Chocobo, gryphon, Coeurl and the mog-hat would like a word hell give the pvp exclusive one a special lighting effect, or make the normal one green or purple a colour the pvp exclusives don't have,

i mean wasn't there meant to be a third coloured hell hound mount and armoured one shown off that was meant for other means to acquire.

Meanwhile, armor concept rewards were never made widely available. Give it up, SE is perfectly fine with rewarding people for having talent/skill

[DracotheDragon]

Or maybe not. I dont see why you should be able to buy something for tokens that people had to compete for why bother competing at all if they'll just give it to you anyway. You wont see that happen as hard as SE is trying to make feast into an Esport.
Instead of just giving away something that people worked hard for why not add rewards like these to be something you could buy with wolf collars you know the things you get as a consolation prize for actually competing?

Making it more obtainable than 100 people ever seems to be a good idea but the idea that someone could be walking around with the lone wolf coat without EVER setting foot in PvP? its ridiculous things like this are a status symbol the same way meteor survivor marks are do you think we should put those in the achievement shop as well?

lets go part by part.

'Or maybe not. I dont see why you should be able to buy something for tokens that people had to compete for why bother competing at all if they'll just give it to you anyway.'

Thus the exclusive colouring or lighting effect to make the item stand out, as well as a couple 2 to 3 patches i.e almost a year of exclusivity to that player, the reward a mount no-one will have that is 100% identacle, with 1 whole year of them being just solely for the top 100 people who may not ever use said mount.

as point in eveadance for this i said the fan festival mog outfit, a exclusive item that was then sold to the masses, the difference and compromise can be that the bought one can be made 1 per person while the reward is account wide.

i can also add, why bother doing A12s o4s o8s why bother with raids, when you get better gear why bother collecting mounts when you could get them later, this argument doesn't hold as much with other content so why pvp, when people can basically complete the requirements at the very start or though non legitimate means, and get rewarded, with a reward revealed FAR later when the content is no longer available to most.

'You wont see that happen as hard as SE is trying to make feast into an Esport.'

this is SE's mistake for trying to tag a 'esport' type of thing into a game that it isn't made for that genre, and for it being a e-sport i don't see any 'professional' and corporate sponsored gamers saying they play this as there esport profession , and i doubt those in the top 100 are 'professionals' please note the quotation, as i mean this in the sense of a job and not i play 12+ hours


'Instead of just giving away something that people worked hard for why not add rewards like these to be something you could buy with wolf collars you know the things you get as a consolation prize for actually competing?'

this part i agree with you, but in this your agree with me to a sense, of allowing other people the ability to gain the mounts though other means, while yes mine is for achievement tokens yours is for wolf tokens, which everyone can get, a good compromise to which i can agree with.

'Making it more obtainable than 100 people ever seems to be a good idea but the idea that someone could be walking around with the lone wolf coat without EVER setting foot in PvP?'

with this i point to your idea of the wolf collars but this time that is an option, and the difference between them, is shown between the sets, the one given to people for free look and dye differently to the ones bought, and a even more basic one can be given to everyone, my evidence for this will be the GARO set, that was gained via MGP, by this argument SE should of never of implemented the glamour set from the MGP,

'its ridiculous things like this are a status symbol the same way meteor survivor marks are do you think we should put those in the achievement shop as well?'

this is not what i was discussing, and i don't like the taste of straw that much, there is a difference between a small mark on the character and a mount, the Metior survivor mark while others may want it is just a tattoo. to be honest i would be happy if they implemented tattoos for players in that sense, not the meteor survivor one.

Meanwhile, armor concept rewards were never made widely available. Give it up, SE is perfectly fine with rewarding people for having talent/skill

mounts minions other armour concepts egi's have been put in the game and done by NPCs that are not given to the players your point if i may ask?

you had me until 'SE is perfectly fine with rewarding people for having talent/skill' check reddit or the fourms and you hear people complaining about premades win-trading and other means that 'talent/skill' can be incorrect, but allow me to say it in this way

the dreadwyrm armours were exclusive to raids and SE was perfectly fine with keeping it that way, then they added the crafted ones. SE was perfectly fine with the kimaru coat being for bard then they made a crafted one for all classes, SE was perfectly fine with the Mog Outfit being exclusive to fan festivals then they sold it on the store, SE was perfectly fine with people not wanting to wear NPC outfits, and then they came on the Mog store. SE was perfectly fine with people NOT getting the previous event items if they missed it, then they were on the mogstore

what this is saying is simple, SE have been 'perfectly fine' with a lot of things, and then they changed there minds.

[Aviars]

Nice how your examples of SE adding items for the general population only apply to items that weren't part of a contest.

I also like how you include items like the dreadwyrm set that you could get in a un-synced raid quite easily.

NPC outfits were never available until SE decided to release them, and again, weren't part of a contest that involved talent/skill or anything of a similar nature

Lemme just say it again. SE has never made contest rewards available for the mass public. Stop acting like they will.

[Crescents]

lets go part by part.


i can also add, why bother doing A12s o4s o8s why bother with raids, when you get better gear why bother collecting mounts when you could get them later, this argument doesn't hold as much with other content so why pvp, when people can basically complete the requirements at the very start or though non legitimate means, and get rewarded, with a reward revealed FAR later when the content is no longer available to most.

'You wont see that happen as hard as SE is trying to make feast into an Esport.'

Okay you're comparing PvE content with competitive content. theres no clearly structured "winners" in raid tiers you are comparing two totally different types of content. taking the lone wolf coat or the hellhound mount and putting it in the achievement store is saying "hey remember how you competed to be top 100? yeah we're just giving those away because people are whining on the forums" because when it was released it was told to everyone at the same time "hey you can compete in this new pvp season and win this!" its not the rest of our fault you chose not to compete. You can go back to Alexander savage and get the same rewards now but albeit easier you're still clearing the same content. Which is why I'd be okay with with it being available for wolf collars since it's still competing in ranked pvp.

Fanfest outfits arent comparable, you cant compare spending 18$ to winning a competition, although I still think the tattoo is an accurate comparison both are a reward for taking part in certain content neither should be widely distributed.

If you're so annoyed with how little these rewards are seen compete this season and then you can see the mount everyday, they competed, they earned these rewards its not their fault you chose not to compete, also how can you compare garo of all things to RANKED pvp You could maybe make these arguments for casual pvp, but im sorry we shouldnt be giving out ranked PvP rewards for anything but taking part in ranked PvP SE already gives into people too much letting them get anything without effort simply for waiting I hope they dont do it for this and I dont think they will.

And im sorry, but you just come off really entitled that you want something other people worked hard for because you think you deserve it? it's a nice mount sure but its meant to signify a win over hundreds of other people how would you feel if you worked really hard for something and someone complained on the forums and was given something that took you months of play 5+ hours a day and unbelievable amounts of stress just because they wanted it?

Nice how your examples of SE adding items for the general population only apply to items that weren't part of a contest.

THANK YOU.

[Pomelo]

....Actually gonna try and rank this time. This is the incentive I need, this amazing beautiful mount, Yoshi you better have give fem roe, the QUEEEEEN BEE pose for this mount.

[Aviars]

@crescents I personally don't believe people should even be able to get them through wolf collars. Top 100 rewards are top 100 rewards and they should stay that way.

However I do believe there should be better incentive to play in lower tiers/not top 100, so a separate and DIFFERENT reward should be provided to them. For example I think if they provided a mount/armor for regular people to work towards during the season that top 100 receives a elite version of the mount/armor, a mount/armor that isn't simply a recolor but noticeably different and cool enough to say it is elite.

[Stormfur]

^^ That would be a fine compromise. I do wish that if we hit the Top 100, that we'd get vouchers that we could turn in for our choice of the rewards rather than "Aulus' chair or nothing".

(Admittedly it is a cool chair!)