Quote Originally Posted by DreadRabbit View Post
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You realize that you are providing more of a perspective from a casual non-raider's side, and I highly appreciate that. I've often though about bringing this same discussion over to the reddit side of things, but...eh...I honestly don't know how that would go, but I do know it's a good resource for casting a net towards the casual side of the house and attempting to discuss it there as well. But it's also reddit, so it could result in the post being deleted, or bans, and for that reason, I'm thankful the mods have allowed this thread to continue.

True, a lot of people play differently. I find myself wanting to personally challenge Ultimate, but I'm not at that level. I'm also hyper-competitive if I don't check myself. It would be unfair to suggest that all players should aim to raid...it would be insulting if I ever suggested that. I agree about the tutorials...you end up having to do a trial-by-fire once you hit Satasha. I actually wiped my first time there, as a DPS. I do wish for something appropriately difficult, though, but only on an optional level. It'll do more harm than good, in my opinion, if a jump in difficulty with dungeons started happening with 4.3. I should've probably clarified my personal view on how I view players, which is casual, casual-midcore, and hardcore.

Thank you for posting that. As you may or may not see, it took me a while to respond because you make some really valid points.