What is this new anti dps healer attitude?

[SgtPepperUK]

To me it's simple.

So, first of all, when I tank I use my mitigation skills to keep myself alive and make the healer's job easier, I don't do it so the healer can DPS.

However, if the healer can DPS then go for it, as long as their fulfilling their primary role of healing me and the party it's not a problem. In this case, if the DPS roles decided they didn't like this, I'd side with the healer.

On the flip side, if a healer doesn't feel comfortable DPSing for whatever reason, then as long they're reasonably busy with healing I'm okay with this too. If very little healing is needed they should do DPS.

To sum up, DPS'ing shouldn't be at the expense of healing but healing only shouldn't come at the expense of doing DPS where possible.

[pigsflew]

That reminds me of a FC mate who plays DRG. He stood in an AoE on purpose. "Oh no I'm gonna be in this AoE." "gotta make arnar work" And I'm like "dang it I'm trying to esuna" because our tank had multiple debuffs on him. And he was like "get gud".

But I agree if you have a healbot, STAND IN ALL THE AOES

Thank you for linking to my favorite Larryzaur video (the benediction to keep him from dying on an instakill mechanic was one of the most brilliant things I've ever seen come out of this game).

If your name is not Larryzaur, DON'T DO THIS, lol

[Ayerinn]

Because when you get healer dpsing in the final trial of SB while people die, you can't really expect them to be appreciated. And then they're out of mana because of dpsing so we wipe. Thanks healers for your great work.

It's all those DPS that want fast queue's so they play healing specs and proceed to DPS anyways...they should just make damage from healers negligible in dungeons and give them more utility/increase healing requirements so they have something to do. If you are going to have a trinity game, make each role unique.

[MishkaRose]

Are you letting people die? If so than you aren't doing your job and should focus more on healing.

Is everyone surviving and doing a good job? Then tell the dps to stop watching you and go back to doing damage. Seriously what pos dps can notice a healer doing damage when the boss is covered in a million other explosions and spell effects.

its more the tank ... being a healer / tank main myself it find it frustrating that all the healers that are DPSing leave my hp at less that 30% (almost anything can 1hit me)

[MishkaRose]

Everyone seems to think that they're an expert when it comes to healing, though, like my friend who calls out every debuff and says 'heal please' periodically as though I'm sleeping at the wheel despite having been our group's main healer for about 15 years across multiple games. I've developed my own sadistic minigames for him in retaliation to keep things exciting, such as the 'how low can his HP go before I Benediction?' game (which was more fun when I stayed in CS) and the 'Regen for everyone, enjoy working twice as hard' minigame. I think non-healers get a bit paranoid about their HP levels if they don't trust the healer, and since it's quite easy to die in FFXIV they're just being insecure. Maybe the tanks are feeling wobbly without their Stoneskin/Bloodbath and massive array of old cooldowns too.

i think its more healers seem to think its ok to leave your hp at 20% as they start to dps

[MishkaRose]

99% of people dying is their own fault due to standing in the bad. People rarely die due to me dpsing.
I am already forced to dps less because some tanks are too squishy and cba.

well are you leaving the tank at less than 40% hp when u start dpsing? maybe you koticed the tank slowing his pulls down if you do... if so that meand the tank dont trust you because your leaving his hp stupid low and he can die from any medium powered hit

[CosmicKirby]

Holy necro batman.

[MishkaRose]

Actually, you should be holding off Blood Price. Holy spam does significantly more damage than anything a DRK can do. So WHM takes priority.

no it dont because what happens when the whm rakes agro and dies because the drk has no mana cus he was spamming unleash or abyssal drain.

[MishkaRose]

Mmm .I have seen a strange change in healer attitudes. before Stormblood I rarely have my HP drop less than 30-40% usually, now I'm finding healers that are risking much more and they're letting my HP drop less than 20-10%, sometimes they even let me die. When I check it, I've seen them casting Malefic, Stone IV or Broil when my HP is 5%. I think they ar risking much more now they don't have cleric stance, and some people can be annoyed. I get annoyed when I die and I see the healer casting DPS spells.

this is my point

[MoroMurasaki]

Holy necro batman.

Indeed! Since it's already rezzed though...

no it dont because what happens when the whm rakes agro and dies because the drk has no mana cus he was spamming unleash or abyssal drain.

I'm no DRK expert but I know I've full on PoM+CS Holy spammed on DRKs before and not pulled off of them.

At the risk of being a meme perhaps the DRKs that are losing threat to their healer need to improve.