Got kicked Right before boss.

[KaldeaSahaline]

I can at least answer this question for you with 100 percent certainty as I recently ran through the MSQ on an alt to see the changes that were made. The Sprouts do not loose their icons/status until they hit the first quest of Stormblood now, so it is entirely possible to see them in the higher level content that is in the game prior UNLESS they remove the sprout themselves via the /nastatus off command.

Appreciate it. I never knew that was even a thing. How does one find out about that, but not how your basic abilities work? Legitimate question.

Waiting to the end to kick is super passive aggressive. Tank sounded new but that's not really an excuse cause I've met plenty of sprouts who became really good players. So if the tank wasn't listening the right thing to do would be to warn of a kick cause he was "trolling or w/e and affecting your gaming experience. " So the three offenders should've removed him sooner instead of playing that card at the end, and even though it's not their responsibility to teach him how to play or he was being that standoffish yet even so just ignoring them completely, it is still bad dungeon etiquette. Either way, think every one in this scenario is just wrong.

Copy pasta response I made to someone else:

So to be 100% clear you would have preferred I said nothing, kicked him as soon as 5 minutes passed? Given him no time to try and improve or take advice and no feedback into why he was kicked?

You truly think that a better solution? Why?

Yes, I very much disagree with kicking someone right before the dungeon is completed. The fact that you think it was gracious of yourself to give someone the opportunity to improve is very telling in of itself.
I don't know why I bother with these threads regardless... I don't encounter these situations personally or have in relation to others in my parties.

The forums sure highlight some of the worst personalities an MMO can offer, that's for sure.

That's ironic coming from you LOL. I treated him exactly how I would want to be treated. That's life 101.

I hope this wasn’t done during the early or midway dungeon... best way to get someone to stop and listen eagerly.

That statement the SCH made was done roughly 45s before the PLD was kicked. We had just arrived at the final boss gate with loot on a 60s left timer, where I stated "I'm almost 100% ok with kicking this tank and just 3 manning the boss". The others agreed and so we waited down the remaining 45 or so seconds, when the SCH had that shit on a macro. I had already resolved myself of the kick, so I wasn't going to change it because of the SCH was rude.

Well if thats true and he was not holding aggro i am then so sorry for you and other two guys for that run. xD

I would have kicked him at the start if i would see something like this, i would thought it was a bot running dungeon. I have meet 1 healer that was only casting cure I spell all the time and didnt communicate with anyone despite him being a PC player, we barely made it at last boss i still think it was a bot healer.

Thank you for understanding. You still owe me a $1 though. You're not getting off that easy.

Side note: - do you truly believe it would have been better to say nothing and just kick him at 5 mins in? Giving him no feedback or chance to improve?

Sprout icon doesnt really matter. People can turn it off at anytime. Just many new players dont know how to

I'm an experienced player and I had no idea that was even a thing. You're telling me this guy found out/researched how to do that, but can't read a single tooltip? That doesn't strike you as odd?