Got kicked Right before boss.

[Fredco191]

it was a mistake making this thread...

I felt like this once. Everyone let this thread die.

[Mavrias]

Any support I might have given you to kick the OP is nullified by this. You see it as punishment so the tank learns a lesson. I see it as abandoning someone who was being bullied and standing with the abusers. No way can I support such a decision in this particular circumstance.

So... Because someone else was ride to the tank, everyone but the tank was wrong? Also you know it only takes two to kick right?

[Mavrias]

But you could get lvl 50 within 2 weeks of doing quests only with double bonus exp "road to 60" and sanctuary bonus (not sure do they stack).
Seriously, you expect these players to learn anything in that time? xD

Judging by the fact you have to complete base 2.0 storyline and all the dungeons that entails to even access Tam Tara Deepcroft Hard, yes, I would expect a player in this situation to know the basics of their role.

[Awha]

Not here to defend the OP, let us be real though class quests are a joke and more then likely could be completed just spamming shield lob it would take forever but I am pretty sure it could be done. Also leveling 50 / 60 dungeons leaves much to be desired in terms of giving players a reason to improve, for shits and giggles I queued into Tam Tara HM with some friends and had our tank just use shield lob, flash and CoS it was cancer. I tip my hat to the group that dealt with it for as long as they did.

I get where people are coming from when it comes to player skill but let us face it the game itself provides very little reason for one to learn their class, if you are a causal player the game provides no reason for one to improve. I am of the mindset no player should be expected to teach another, if one player is unwilling to learn their class due to the game not providing them with a reason to do so why should the community be expected to teach the person. Personally I do not understand why people think sprout status provides players with automatic leeway, it does not it is all a personal choice and no player should be vilified for not wanting to help a sprout. If a player is willing to help a new player awesome! If not so be it it should not be expected, but when it happens like in the case of the OP you should take heed of the advice since you lucked out and found a group willing to help.

Personally I am shocked they did not kick the tank as soon as possible, instead they gave the man a chance and that is commendable. To the OP it is fine if you felt they harassed and wasted your time, but look at it from their side you wasted their time. Do not expect anyone to hold your hand, if you truly wanted to learn you would have listened to their advice, looked up guides done something. I get that this game really does not punish poor play and you could get away with a lot especially while leveling but that is not an excuse. Nor is it right to waste the time of other members simply because you are new.

[Ayer2015]

So to be 100% clear (and please respond to this) you would have preferred I said nothing, kicked him as soon as 5 minutes passed? Given him no time to try and improve or take advice and no feedback into why he was kicked?

You think that is less toxic? WoW... that's backwards to me.

Yes, I very much disagree with kicking someone right before the dungeon is completed. The fact that you think it was gracious of yourself to give someone the opportunity to improve is very telling in of itself.
I don't know why I bother with these threads regardless... I don't encounter these situations personally or have in relation to others in my parties.

The forums sure highlight some of the worst personalities an MMO can offer, that's for sure.

[Dualgunner]

Yes, I very much disagree with kicking someone right before the dungeon is completed. The fact that you think it was gracious of yourself to give someone the opportunity to improve is very telling in of itself.
I don't know why I bother with these threads regardless... I don't encounter these situations personally or have in relation to others in my parties.

The forums sure highlight some of the worst personalities an MMO can offer, that's for sure.

You disagree on a rather debatable point. Both of you believe your stance to be the just one, and disagree with the other's position vehemently. I don't think either of you are toxic for the positions you hold tbh, just that you disagree with what should have been done in a situation where there is no right answer.

[xMysticx]

(UPDATE) I Just wanna simply point out that i haven't been replying due to the fact that i hit max post limit, i've went back and read most of your guys responses and it's mixed, i just wanna thank you for those who gave the advice and tips, also to the people who keep bashing me about my mistakes i would suggest you stop as i have already been told this at least 40% of people in this thread, so i would gladly ask you not because it's not going to resolve anything, also this is most likely my last reply to this thread, Thank you to those who were helpful with advice/guides, yes for some of you i may have came off a bit rude because i was bit annoyed at the time, but i also don't need to be scolded for the 160th time for my mistakes, anyway this is my last reply to this thread if any of you wish talk or wish to continue to talk to me outside of this thread i would gladly accept that.

[Nestama]

Yes, I very much disagree with kicking someone right before the dungeon is completed. The fact that you think it was gracious of yourself to give someone the opportunity to improve is very telling in of itself.
I don't know why I bother with these threads regardless... I don't encounter these situations personally or have in relation to others in my parties.

The forums sure highlight some of the worst personalities an MMO can offer, that's for sure.

Keep in mind, you can't kick people if combat is happening and if the loot pool is still open (takes 5 minutes for it to close automatically). If the only time to kick someone was at the final boss, then that's just unfortunate timing.

[Squintina]

I feel bad for the Original Poster receiving so many pages of comments just on this. Surely 4 or 5 pages would have been enough.

[Emstidor]

I feel bad for the Original Poster receiving so many pages of comments just on this. Surely 4 or 5 pages would have been enough.

https://imgur.com/RM7sLLt

I couldn't resist