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    Lium's Avatar
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    Brielle Artemus
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    This game is in desperate need of graveyards/rez points

    So, during a main scenario quest, I was on my way up a mountain in Dravania, knocking out a few sidequests along the way, when I suddenly found myself in over my head. I had got into the Gnath village where Lady Iceheart and myself were to be captured by the bird people so they could take us in front of their god.

    I was caught off guard by a few surprise respawns and I ended up dead. (This was before I had Vercure) Luckily, I set my homepoint to Tailfeather, but it was still a long way from where I died. So I had to ride all the way back to the village, fighting through all the respawns.

    It got me wondering. Why are there no graveyards in this game? This wasn't an issue in ARR. But in HW, I'm finding the zones much more spread out, and setting your homepoint to the nearest hub doesn't really help.

    Someone said something about Phoenix Downs. Is that something I can buy off the market board?
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    Altria Pendragons
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    So, during a main scenario quest, I was on my way up a mountain in Dravania, knocking out a few sidequests along the way, when I suddenly found myself in over my head. I had got into the Gnath village where Lady Iceheart and myself were to be captured by the bird people so they could take us in front of their god.

    I was caught off guard by a few surprise respawns and I ended up dead. (This was before I had Vercure) Luckily, I set my homepoint to Tailfeather, but it was still a long way from where I died. So I had to ride all the way back to the village, fighting through all the respawns.

    It got me wondering. Why are there no graveyards in this game? This wasn't an issue in ARR. But in HW, I'm finding the zones much more spread out, and setting your homepoint to the nearest hub doesn't really help.

    Someone said something about Phoenix Downs. Is that something I can buy off the market board?
    I assume you skipped every story cutscene? If you didnt then you will realize the power of echo forbidden you from death. Every time you got knock out you time skip back to the time you are never dead to begin with, why does game need a graveyard? If you really want a graveyard, you are in the wrong game.
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    Nettle Creidne
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    There has to be some sort of punishment for death. The long journey back is exactly that.

    Don't die and you won't miss graveyards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    I assume you skipped every story cutscene? If you didnt then you will realize the power of echo forbidden you from death. Every time you got knock out you time skip back to it has happened. if you are never dead to begin with, why does game need a graveyard? If you really want a graveyard, you are in the wrong game.
    Really? I've seen every cutscene, so if I somehow missed this, I feel like an idiot. Whenever I die, I'm given two options: release or wait. I've waited but have never seen the option you're talking about. But again, if this is a thing, I apologize for this thread.
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    Magni Henriksson
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    Really? I've seen every cutscene, so if I somehow missed this, I feel like an idiot. Whenever I die, I'm given two options: release or wait. I've waited but have never seen the option you're talking about. But again, if this is a thing, I apologize for this thread.
    I think by “Time skip back” they mean return to your home point.
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Phoenix Downs will allow you to raise another dead person - you cant use them on yourself, so they wont help you if you die. All healers, aswell as RDM and SMN are also having a raise-skill that can be used to raise people. You can always try to /shout for a raise (use <pose> to let them know where to find your body), people are often nice enough to give a helping hand there!

    And honestly: The overworld is pretty much tame like a new born kitten - dying their occurs very, very rarerly. I honestly cant recall the last time I died to something... so, just as Penthea said: Having to make your way back is your punishment for being careless.

    I also assume that graveyards are a mechanic from another game? Because we do have a graveyard location in eastern Thanalan... but thats not what you're refering to, is it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    Really? I've seen every cutscene, so if I somehow missed this, I feel like an idiot. Whenever I die, I'm given two options: release or wait. I've waited but have never seen the option you're talking about. But again, if this is a thing, I apologize for this thread.
    You have a 3rd option and that's to ask for a raise, either a shout or in a FC/LS just do <pos> while in game and if anyone is around via shout or fc you can get a raise.
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    Rintha Elenah
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lium View Post
    Really? I've seen every cutscene, so if I somehow missed this, I feel like an idiot. Whenever I die, I'm given two options: release or wait. I've waited but have never seen the option you're talking about. But again, if this is a thing, I apologize for this thread.
    The person you're quoting is talking about the lore behind ressing. It's explained in one of the first cutscenes of the game. To put it simple, you anchor your aether to a home point (an aetheryte), allowing it to return to that specific point when "dying" (although your health dropping to zero only knocks you out, lorewise)
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    Athanasios Seiun
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    Phoenix downs are useless in that they can't be used during battle, only when there's nothing beating on the down owner can they raise someone if they don't have access to a raise spell and you can only carry one at a time. The other thing is this game does not use a death system. SE went the "you're simply unconscious from being knocked out" route, so graveyards would be useless in this scenario for overworld situations.

    At least there's an aetheryte or two for each zone to teleport to even though you still had to travel back to that spot on the map. Could have been worse without one.
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sekkei View Post
    At least there's an aetheryte or two for each zone to teleport to even though you still had to travel back to that spot on the map. Could have been worse without one.
    Well...almost all zones. There is one that has no Aetheryte that comes to mind(Hinterlands). Not sure if there are any others aside from second map of a city(which has mini aetherytes) and residential districts.
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