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  1. #171
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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Mar 2011
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Lynne Asteria
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Okamimaru View Post
    Why are people acting like these noobs are using the mentor roulette to queue up for primals? This isn't a noob/ bad player issue... it's a mentor issue... it's not like these primals are in any other roulette... people you're stuck in a party with want to be there and complete the trial... the only ones complaining are a few "mentors" who feel they should just get the easy stuff and never have to actually mentor anyone
    Would you be willing to teach someone in Shinryu EX or Byakko EX or O5S how their job works at a base level? Because its expected that one understands their job when going into endgame content. I am all for teaching fights as a mentor. I am not going to teach people their jobs in endgame content. This is the issue we have. Not that people aren't learning EX mechanics instantly, that they don't understand their own jobs and are in EX fights.

    I feel you are latching too much on "Mentors wanting easy content, or mentors not wanting to teach".
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  2. #172
    Player Okamimaru's Avatar
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    Ul Dah
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    Rastiana Bel'briar
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    I am not going to teach people their jobs in endgame content. This is the issue we have. Not that people aren't learning EX mechanics instantly, that they don't understand their own jobs and are in EX fights.
    This isn't a mentor roulette issue... this is an issue with players not learning how jobs work... again NOT a reason to remove ex primals from mentor roulette.... the reward from doing mentor is so tiny just skip it if you can't handle an ex primal pug...
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  3. #173
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    Metalwrath's Avatar
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    Character
    Rhulk Roegan
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    Raiden
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 90
    A lot of people arent owning up that they were carried in ex clear for friends and they are actually awful at the EX fights themselves.Its one of the main reasons mentors leave the fights.It has very little to do with the new players not wanting to learn.Its new content to them and obviously if they are useing DF fro an EX they clearly want to try and do the fight.
    Its a big problem these days if SE have to throw out more and more reward to get older players to help new players.
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  4. #174
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
    World
    Behemoth
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Metalwrath View Post
    and they are actually awful at the EX fights themselves.
    Many don't remember mechanics from 4 years ago if they didn't do it every day.

    Quote Originally Posted by Metalwrath View Post
    Its new content to them and obviously if they are useing DF fro an EX they clearly want to try and do the fight.
    That's the issue. On any given day, there are countless learning parties on the PF for EX content. I've helped many get clears. There is really zero reason other than difficulty to do ARR/HW Extreme content at ilvl other than challenge. And if that's what you're after, find like minded people to do that with.
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    Last edited by Deceptus; 03-05-2018 at 09:23 AM.

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