Im Done

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Right. People voted with their feet when they all came to PvP for the Garo rewards. Things went from no queue pops outside of prime time to 5 minute queue pops all day everyday for at least a month. People are forgetting that PvP participation was also in the gutter for lengthy periods during 3.0. Garo actually changed that...massively. No bot explosion either. That came with the 4.0 XP.

I need to correct this now, and every time it's said:

Garo did NOT improve queues. Sure, it was the first in game event that was PvP-oriented (as per the Garo creator's wishes), but that event launched right beside the overhaul of Wolf Mark rewards and reward costs (a huge improvement in itself. Instead of a body piece costing 12,800 marks or so, they now only cost 4000), and more importantly, Frontline Freelancer - the GC restriction removal the community asked and begged for for 3 years. Nobody asked for Garo; it was nice to have, but that pales in comparison to a feature the community wanted so badly, and even said would improve queues, and that's exactly what it did.

[Akor]

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Queue times on FL did improved upon of freelancer, but over all shorting queue times was thanks to the garo event and not bc of the freelancer which bring botters in the FL thx to garo event. Now with 4.0 queue times dint change bc of the XP reward. Reward system was more like QoL too which was good to botters bc it was easier get items to desync/exchange them for seals.

[Levy9]

I need to correct this now, and every time it's said:

Garo did NOT improve queues...more importantly, Frontline Freelancer - the GC restriction removal the community asked and begged for for 3 years.

Well, now you are speaking from the perspective of someone who only does Frontlines. You didn't consider The Feast at all and how the Garo event effected the mode, independent of Frontlines Freelancer. I only played Frontlines a few times during the Garo event. I spammed The Feast.

How did Frontlines Freelancer shorten my Feast queues down to 5-10 minute queues all day for a month? My Frontlines queues were actually a bit longer than my Feast queues during Garo, which is partly why I spammed Feast. Garo definitely brought players to PvP and The Feast alone debunks the Freelancer theory. Garo brought in more players across the board.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

How did Frontlines Freelancer shorten my Feast queues down to 5-10 minute queues all day for a month? My Frontlines queues were actually a bit longer than my Feast queues during Garo, which is partly why I spammed Feast. Garo definitely brought players to PvP and The Feast alone debunks the Freelancer theory. Garo brought in more players across the board.

If that's truly the case, why are there posts here still complaining about the Feast being dead? I mean, the Garo event is still going, and there's just SO many new players now thanks to 4.0, our lord and savior. . .

I mean, we can shoot for nitpicking, and you would be right in saying the event got more people to queue for the Feast (because one particular reward overall required the Feast only). With that however, I'd love to point out the crap logic sponsored by SE that the chat ban was the reason more people participated. Now I don't believe that anymore than anyone else with a working sense of logic, but it's worth noting. Still, I remember being asked quite frequently if custom matches counted, or if 8v8 counted, among other questions, yet rarely saw those asking in the Feast, and I too played pretty heavily then.

Do you like the Feast? If so, that's good. I once did too. Part of me still does, but now it feels like seeing an ex you remember having some good times with, but then they changed, or perhaps have/had a particularly awful habit that was just a dealbreaker for you. Let's however shoot for the realistic talking point that Garo did as much for PvP as Rival Wings did. Gave people a little something to grind for, then drop like a bad habit yet again once they got it.