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  1. #11
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    Cidel's Avatar
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    Cidel Paratonnerre
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    Hyperion
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    *sigh* Yeah, it's pretty bad. You raise a DPS (or anything really, but it happens to DPS the most), they decide to get up like 2 seconds right before some big raid-wide damage-


    -and then you notice they immediately popped Fists of Fire, Aetherflow, Battle Litany or I-have-to-always-be-pressing-a-button buff...





    Guess who's back on the floor. Typical 24-man raid behavior.
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  2. #12
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    Critical-Limit's Avatar
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    Xizzy Azenith
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    Zalera
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    Monk Lv 80
    If you're raised inside ghost blocks on savage I think you die automatically regardless of invincibility, but for good reason probably.
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  3. #13
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    Lokier's Avatar
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    Lokier Ame
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    Louisoix
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Critical-Limit View Post
    If you're raised inside ghost blocks on savage I think you die automatically regardless of invincibility, but for good reason probably.
    Yeah, you do... I've had people rage at me for not accepting a rez from them when I see them rez me in the middle of the platform where the ghosts %£$^ing spawned...
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  4. #14
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    Nora Origo
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    Excalibur
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    I'm one of those DPS...

    I was doing Byakko Ex on SAM when I didn't watch my aggro/or the tank didn't provoke in time for Highest Stakes and I got grabbed and slammed. When I got the raise, my DPS instincts told me to smash that accept button and start my combo up again, but I was at 10-20% HP and died right away to some AoE because I wasn't topped off.

    It doesn't happen that often when I'm on DRG but I'm so focused on making up my lost DPS that I don't often consider the right time to Raise myself.
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  5. #15
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    Risvertasashi's Avatar
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Yeah... I have to explain this all too often. A buff icon with an explanatory tooltip would be very welcome.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nora_of_Mira View Post
    It doesn't happen that often when I'm on DRG but I'm so focused on making up my lost DPS that I don't often consider the right time to Raise myself.
    A lot of the time when to accept isn't as important as not doing any action (except maybe movement). In the example above, had you waited until after the aoe went out, it would have done 0 damage to you and your healers would have had time to heal you back up.
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    Last edited by Risvertasashi; 03-01-2018 at 10:49 PM.

  6. #16
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    HyoMinPark's Avatar
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    Hyomin Park
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    Cactuar
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    Sage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Coatl View Post
    Some bosses also completely ignore the invulnerability given by being raised as well. Off the top of my head Ex Death's White Hole just doesn't care, Neo's emptiness patterns don't care about your invuln and Byakko's blast after you free fall couldn't give a shite either. It's not commonplace but don't be surprised if you get griefed through your invuln by a specific boss mechanic.

    I agree though there really should be a type of buff or debuff that indicates this.
    Basically this. My experience has always been that if you move or perform any action, your Rez-immunity goes away. But there are also mechanics that just outright ignore it. Can confirm that both Exdeath’s White Hole and Black Hole, and Neo’s Emptiness ignore Rez-immunity. Never forget that time I raised, and as the animation was finishing, Exdeath cast Black Hole and I took 85,000 damage before I could even attempt to move away. :’) Not much you can do about that, though, since Black Hole spawn locations are random, and you raise wherever the healer (or RDM/SMN) was when they Raised you.
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    Sage | Astrologian | Dancer

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    Hyomin Park#0055

  7. #17
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    Kazela Arniman
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    Warrior Lv 80
    No they aren’t; I can clearly see people when they are ressed.
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  8. #18
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    Hyomin Park
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    Sage Lv 92
    Quote Originally Posted by Kazgrel View Post
    No they aren’t; I can clearly see people when they are ressed.
    Not entirely sure what is meant by this. If you’re insinuating there isn’t Rez-immunity, there is. It just has a 5~10 second duration (if even that), is ignored by some major mechanics, and goes away if you move or perform any action. There’s just nothing in the game that tells you about it, but if you’ve ever raised, and then stood completely still during some raid-wide AOE and saw you took 0 damage, that’s Rez-immunity at work.
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    Sage | Astrologian | Dancer

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    Hyomin Park#0055

  9. #19
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    Taika's Avatar
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    Purple Rain
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    Sophia
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    Arcanist Lv 32
    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Not entirely sure what is meant by this.
    I think they confused invincible with invisible.
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  10. #20
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    Nora Origo
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    Excalibur
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Taika View Post
    I think they confused invincible with invisible.
    oh lmao /10char
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