Think the game will succeed?

[Blarp]

I have no idea if the game will succeed at this point. I thought it was going to be a success at launch and then I played it. Then it went F2P for over a year to get "fixed." The game is not relevant to the larger MMO audience and I'm not sure a pre-rendered trailer at E3 is going to change that. SE has always sucked at marketing their games. They've been fortunate enough to rest on their laurels and create hype just by calling a game "Final Fantasy." I don't think that's as true as it once was. 2.0 looks great, but people are going to need a bit more than pretty pictures and words.

This game will not compete with TOR. There's really no debating that point. TOR has sold more boxed copy pre-orders (in NA only) than FFXIV has probably sold worldwide since release. They picked a very unfortunate time frame to start charging.

SE has a huge uphill battle to turn the perception of their product around. People will be trying these new MMO's i.e. TOR, Tera, GW2, TSW etc. Most people don't just decide to start playing another MMO that none of their friends play. Speaking for myself, social ties are what keep me playing these games. If my entire guild and RL friends decide they're going to play TOR for awhile, I'm not going to say peace and go play XIV with none of my buddies.

[AmyRae]

This game will not compete with TOR. There's really no debating that point. TOR has sold more boxed copy pre-orders (in NA only) than FFXIV has probably sold worldwide since release. They picked a very unfortunate time frame to start charging.

Can't deny hard numbers. SWTOR has over 825k in pre-sale orders the week ending Nov. 19 (with still 5 weeks to go before launch!). That's more sales than even Rift had on its opening day.

http://www.vgchartz.com/charts/preorders.php?date=40867

But even if FFXIV was still free to play, I don't think that would change anything.

Ultimately, it comes down to the 2.0 relaunch no matter what. Either that's going to be good enough for FFXIV to claim the necessary following, or it will perish. We've known this for some time now.

[TheVedis]

Can't deny hard numbers. SWTOR has over 825k in pre-sale orders the week ending Nov. 19 (with still 5 weeks to go before launch!). That's more sales than even Rift had on its opening day.

http://www.vgchartz.com/charts/preorders.php?date=40867

But even if FFXIV was still free to play, I don't think that would change anything.

Ultimately, it comes down to the 2.0 relaunch no matter what. Either that's going to be good enough for FFXIV to claim the necessary following, or it will perish. We've known this for some time now.

pre orders dont mean anything

DCU had over 1mil pre orders and it just went f2p cuz it sucked


also NDA is funny, ive been breaking it for a year, i wont lie, star wars sucks as an mmo, and anyone who looks at it and isnt such a die hard star wars fan they arent blind can see it


finaly, the 2 games are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT GENRES

star wars fans and final fantasy type fans are 2 completely different types of people

people wanting a sci fi mmo arent gonna care about fantasy mmos and so on

[Synfrag]

pre orders dont mean anything

DCU had over 1mil pre orders and it just went f2p cuz it sucked


also NDA is funny, ive been breaking it for a year, i wont lie, star wars sucks as an mmo, and anyone who looks at it and isnt such a die hard star wars fan they arent blind can see it


finaly, the 2 games are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT GENRES

star wars fans and final fantasy type fans are 2 completely different types of people

people wanting a sci fi mmo arent gonna care about fantasy mmos and so on

Exactly this ^

You would never catch me with a flippin light saber in my hands.

[Blarp]

Exactly this ^

You would never catch me with a flippin light saber in my hands.

But playing a game with furries and toddlers is cool?

[TheVedis]

But playing a game with furries and toddlers is cool?

evert fantasy game has some type of furry creature in the game, wether or not you play it

the fact is, its still fantasy as opposed to sci fi

not everyone wants to run around with futuristic weapons, they want the fantasy setting
same thing goes for super hero and non fiction type games, we dont want realism and real life, or superheroes either

we want fantasy

[XxOstiaxX]

Exactly this ^

You would never catch me with a flippin light saber in my hands.

Because wielding a sword with red glow, flames or some sort of light radiance sure does not look like a light saber :/

[Holland]

Because wielding a sword with red glow, flames or some sort of light radiance sure does not look like a light saber :/

Do you know the difference between a mechanical weapon versus a magical one? :/

[AmyRae]

pre orders dont mean anything

DCU had over 1mil pre orders and it just went f2p cuz it sucked

1. DCU didn't have that many pre-orders (its current lifetime total sales amount to around 600k with PC and PS3 combined).

2. The point was that SWTOR has more pre-orders than FFXIV even shipped boxes, let alone sold (which is true).

[TheVedis]

1. DCU didn't have that many pre-orders (its current lifetime total sales amount to around 600k with PC and PS3 combined).

2. The point was that SWTOR has more pre-orders than FFXIV even shipped boxes, let alone sold (which is true).

actualy, DCU did have that many and more

they were overly bragging about how they had well over a million when it came out


but my point about different game genres and the fact that not everyone cares about every other mmo out there stands


Star wars right now isnt selling based on how great a game its going to be, this is pure fact
its selling cuz its friggin star wars