Removal of Surnames

[Seikninkuru]

Oh, no, as I said - ' It's a shame what it did can't really be done by a modern game, not without using an older, more dynamically modifiable graphics format' - IE: Isometrics.

I have nothing against Ultima's choice of graphics format I just.. don't get why the backgrounds had to be shown at an angle about 15 degrees off vertical, and the characters at about 30 degrees off vertical. I know a lot of people were fine with that but.. made my head hurt x.x Just like how WoW's choice of graphics, while not in any way bad, still make me feel ill for some reason >.>

Nothing wrogn at all wirth those probs. Just I like that gamestyle and im saddened many games dont adopt it? lol I'm sure you're not saying it's terrible either.


As I said i love eastern art, more animeish the better imo. I love it. just dont make it look like SOGA(eq2) it was so ugly and they specifically made that for east asians!!!!

[Giant]

I like surname. Honestly, naming system doesn't effect the game itself. It is an extra option you got. So, it is useful.

[sasukeuchiha]

I still do not get why some people have a isue with them being made optional. I myself do not want surnames removed. All i want to see is them made optional for people like me who hate them with a passion and rather make it easier for people to communicate. Making everything more realistic does not always make a video game fun.

[Dreamer]

I'm pissed because I'd been hyped for this game and the char i was going to make for years.... Surnames??? Really??? what was the purpose? Maybe if there are thousands of people logged in at a time...

Fensfeld answered this rather well:

Yeah, poor arguments and trolling aside, don't remove the surnames feature, that's just.. dumb, really.

Do you have any idea how rare it is to find a game that doesn't have the stupid, arbitrary limit of one use per name? To this day, I've found three. Phantasy Star Online, Phantasy Star Universe, and Final Fantasy XIV; and the first two achieved it by using a system of numeric character ID's that'd make very little sense here, not to mention would be very difficult to implement and make user friendly given the differing game formats. Besides, I like the forename, surname, format.

Even setting aside the fact that the level of coding needed to remove surnames would be huge to the point of not being worth it - just think how many game systems have to call on our character name, it's a lot more than just name display and chat - the idea is still stupid. It's stupid even setting aside my first argument; how do you handle changing it to a one-name-per-player system? Tell huge numbers of players 'Sorry, you've gotta put up with being Forra#12 for the rest of your time here, or delete the character you worked so hard on, then remake and spend hours trawling for a name that isn't already in use'?

[BadJoeRed]

You don't care that we think this is a really silly topic.
And we don't care why you think it's zomg highly rofl important.

thread over??

[sasukeuchiha]

Optional is still the best solution. IF they made it optional id remake my character and restart the game i don't care surnames are retarted.

[BelgianRofl]

It's not going to be hard to find a name that is not already in use. It's not like this game is popular anyway.

[Aramil]

It's not going to be hard to find a name that is not already in use. It's not like this game is popular anyway.

I'm going to quote what you said on page 25:

I'm pissed because I'd been hyped for this game and the char i was going to make for years.... Surnames??? Really??? what was the purpose? Maybe if there are thousands of people logged in at a time...

From what I understood from that and the countless of time you've repeated the "don't like to be forced to use a surname" argument, you're annoyed because the name you wanted to use of course didn't had a surname and the inclusion of surname forbid you from simply using that name.

I understand why you can hate the surname, but guess what, I'm happy they're surname for the exact same reason.

Aramil is a username I've been using for years and while it's not incredibly popular, there's always a few people using it too no matter what the game is. Heck in Aion I made my character on the day of the release and it was already taken by someone on the server my guild had chose. Same thing in FFXIV, there's 15 Aramils according to the Lodestone and one of them is on the same server as me. I don't know who between him and I made our character first, however thanks to the surname, we can both use that username.

You said it's not going to be hard to find a name not already in use? Well it's not harder to find a surname, no, it's easier since once you've found a surname there's more chances that the username/surname combination is not taken.

[Flower]

Optional is still the best solution. IF they made it optional id remake my character and restart the game i don't care surnames are retarted.

While having something be "optional" would normally be the best solution, when it comes to names though that would not work out so well. You would have some names taken and some not. You would also have a ton of people that will be furious if they have to rename their character. I am not talking about 10 or 20 im talking 1,000s of people. Personally that does more damage than just keeping names the way they are.

I just really hope the devs realize that just bec this thread got so much attention does not mean the majority of us want something like this to ever happen.

[whoopeeragon]

..So now BOTH topics regarding surnames have moved up into the front page? Twelve be good, either remove one of these topics, or combine them together. Or drop the subject totally.

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