Would you pay $50 to cross job glamour?

[Mahrze]

If you think that’s an attack, then I don’t even know what to tell you. I couldn’t follow your “f2p” (which is “free to play” and this game isn’t f2p) comment, hence why I thought you meant “p2w” (“pay to win”)—which is a frequent argument made against cash shop items, even though you don’t “win” anything by buying them.

You can "argue" that our sub is just to access the game, but the vanity/optional items in general are more common on f2p games where you also have p2w items, because that's how they make their game profitable.

The argument point is: a game which already makes millions from sub money, is falling into a practice to lock out certain items as cash shop only. Which the whales cater to and is a common practice of "f2p" games. Hence why they said: "There's enough f2p garbage going on in a subscription game already."

They weren't right nor wrong, just certain sentences can't be seen as "literal".

[Cakekizyy]

F2P? I’m guessing you mean P2W, but level 1 glamours, rare dyes, old event items, and mounts aren’t really paying to win anything. It’s all vanity, and it won’t help you actually succeed in this game’s battle content.

That's not what P2W means.

[Bourne_Endeavor]

That's not what P2W means.

Actually, it is. P2W denotes winning something, i.e., obtaining an unfair gameplay advantage over other players through cash shop purchases. A P2W example for FFXIV would be selling the current tomestone on the mogstation not a Chinese dress.

[347SPECTRE]

No. This shouldn't be something we have to pay extra for. It should be something we unlock through playing the game.

[Cakekizyy]

Actually, it is. P2W denotes winning something, i.e., obtaining an unfair gameplay advantage over other players through cash shop purchases. A P2W example for FFXIV would be selling the current tomestone on the mogstation not a Chinese dress.

Being able to wear cross class glam doesn't give anything that could be p2w.

[HyoMinPark]

Being able to wear cross class glam doesn't give anything that could be p2w.

No, it wouldn't. Which is why I said the cash shop items (level 1 glamours, rare dyes, old event items, and mounts) aren't paying to win anything. I wasn't even aware the person meant a "f2p model" because their comment sounded like they were meaning this game was f2p, when it isn't. Which is why I said "I guess you meant p2w". If you want to point out where I said paying $50 to unlock cross role Glamour is p2w, be my guest, but I never said that.

Simple mistake on my part, but I never said anything in this game was p2w because it's not.

[Gemina]

Just as an update, XI allows cross-job glamouring (including AF). Here is my THF wearing WHM AF for example:



XIV is all about fan service at this point, and so I think cross-job glamouring will become a thing eventually. They're probably waiting for when their potato servers can handle it :P


To answer the question of OP though, I don't know if I'd pay for it. At least I'd hope I wouldn't pay for it as I feel they are nickle and dimeing this game to death as it is. I really, really hope cross-job glamouring becomes a thing. It's a pointless restriction in my opinion and should be included included in game for free.

This isn't FFXI, or any other mmo for that matter. There's a whole different crew of decision makers manning those ships. I would argue that 'fan service' would have AF sets remained locked behind their respective jobs, because it's typically fans of the franchise that disapprove being able to glamour AF gear onto a job it doesn't belong to. I would also argue that FFXI no longer feels like a Final Fantasy game, and it's things like what you've pointed out that facilitate that thought process.

It's not pointless having this restriction, but I will agree that a player shouldn't have to pay to have it lifted if it ever did become an option. If this day comes, hopefully like FFXI, it happens LONG after I stop playing it.

[Ayer2015]

NO

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[Skivvy]

This isn't FFXI, or any other mmo for that matter. There's a whole different crew of decision makers manning those ships. I would argue that 'fan service' would have AF sets remained locked behind their respective jobs, because it's typically fans of the franchise that disapprove being able to glamour AF gear onto a job it doesn't belong to. I would also argue that FFXI no longer feels like a Final Fantasy game, and it's things like what you've pointed out that facilitate that thought process.

It's not pointless having this restriction, but I will agree that a player shouldn't have to pay to have it lifted if it ever did become an option. If this day comes, hopefully like FFXI, it happens LONG after I stop playing it.

My point in referencing XI is that the poster I quoted was making it sound as if AF was still locked in XI, and it isn't.

I don't think we can claim whether or not unlocking AF would be considered fan service or not seeing that their only other MMO has already gone that route. There isn't much background to form an opinion on, and I've not seen any official polls. However, all of the various FF bosses coming from other games, outfits, music, cross-over events, etc - they don't really help make Eorzea feel like it's own world. We just continue to borrow and implement from everywhere else. So yes, the fan service in this game is insanely high. Letting people cross-job glamour seems quite minor when you take into account everything else already in game.

[RosaLunaCelestia]

I wouldn t pay $50 .. maybe... 0$ or 1$ XD