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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    F2P? I’m guessing you mean P2W, but level 1 glamours, rare dyes, old event items, and mounts aren’t really paying to win anything. It’s all vanity, and it won’t help you actually succeed in this game’s battle content.
    That's not what P2W means.
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    Cassandra Solidor
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cakekizyy View Post
    That's not what P2W means.
    Actually, it is. P2W denotes winning something, i.e., obtaining an unfair gameplay advantage over other players through cash shop purchases. A P2W example for FFXIV would be selling the current tomestone on the mogstation not a Chinese dress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor View Post
    Actually, it is. P2W denotes winning something, i.e., obtaining an unfair gameplay advantage over other players through cash shop purchases. A P2W example for FFXIV would be selling the current tomestone on the mogstation not a Chinese dress.
    Being able to wear cross class glam doesn't give anything that could be p2w.
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    Hyomin Park
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cakekizyy View Post
    Being able to wear cross class glam doesn't give anything that could be p2w.
    No, it wouldn't. Which is why I said the cash shop items (level 1 glamours, rare dyes, old event items, and mounts) aren't paying to win anything. I wasn't even aware the person meant a "f2p model" because their comment sounded like they were meaning this game was f2p, when it isn't. Which is why I said "I guess you meant p2w". If you want to point out where I said paying $50 to unlock cross role Glamour is p2w, be my guest, but I never said that.

    Simple mistake on my part, but I never said anything in this game was p2w because it's not.
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    Ali Lifesaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    No, it wouldn't. Which is why I said the cash shop items (level 1 glamours, rare dyes, old event items, and mounts) aren't paying to win anything. I wasn't even aware the person meant a "f2p model" because their comment sounded like they were meaning this game was f2p, when it isn't. Which is why I said "I guess you meant p2w". If you want to point out where I said paying $50 to unlock cross role Glamour is p2w, be my guest, but I never said that.

    Simple mistake on my part, but I never said anything in this game was p2w because it's not.
    Would you be okay with any additions to dresser storage space and additional glamour plates requiring additional payment? (just like additional retainers)
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    Player Linx0r's Avatar
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    Natti Starshine
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    Glamour should be left where it is. If people want or like the look of a casting set, then level the casting class. You can already pay for jump potions without learning how to play the job so go for it then boom, you have your glamour. Want whm chest as tank? Just play with a crappy tank and spam medica 2

    Glamour is fine the way it is. If you want to pay for gear, pay for a jump potion
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linx0r View Post
    Glamour should be left where it is. If people want or like the look of a casting set, then level the casting class. You can already pay for jump potions without learning how to play the job so go for it then boom, you have your glamour. Want whm chest as tank? Just play with a crappy tank and spam medica 2

    Glamour is fine the way it is. If you want to pay for gear, pay for a jump potion
    this is an inane argument. A lot of the generic (non-AF) gear which is currently locked to jobs would look perfectly fine with other jobs. A lot of BLK mage "caster gear" doesn't look any different from WHT mage caster gear and even some of the item from casters would easily fit a DPS or tank. The same applies for a lot of the crafting gear which would look perfectly fine on caster, dps, or tanks.

    I am all for making glamour job neutral. I don't have an issue with AF gear either since I rarely see people actually using it anyway.

    From your post I would guess your mind completely melts every time you see a tank or mage wearing the bikini or a DPS strutting around in a Chocobo Mascot Head.
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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Paladin Lv 83
    Quote Originally Posted by Linx0r View Post
    Glamour should be left where it is. If people want or like the look of a casting set, then level the casting class. You can already pay for jump potions without learning how to play the job so go for it then boom, you have your glamour. Want whm chest as tank? Just play with a crappy tank and spam medica 2

    Glamour is fine the way it is. If you want to pay for gear, pay for a jump potion

    And if I want a mix of tank gear and caster gear? Merely having access to one job's gear is not very interesting, the interesting thing would be to be able to mix gear sets.

    No, glamour isn't fine the way it is.
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