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  1. #31
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    Leloa's Avatar
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    Lena Vales
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeanKty View Post
    I agree. I'm in the same position you are. I FINALLY have the money to purchase the plot and found the exact one I've been waiting on. This is complete BS that they give the FC's this long to purchase a plot. If they haven't done it by now, they aren't going to. They need to open it up for the people that don't have a house and want to get one.
    I mean this was a known fact before the patch and maintance why are you surprised?
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  2. #32
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    Erina Nakiri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leloa View Post
    I mean this was a known fact before the patch and maintance why are you surprised?
    He doesnt understand the meaning of moratorium or why FC must have privilege for this.
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  3. #33
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    Rufuso Aesir
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by ChloeBamco View Post
    He doesnt understand the meaning of moratorium or why FC must have privilege for this.
    Maybe but the relocation on individuals was not a correct thing to do unless current houseless individuals get a whole ward for themselves afterward while everyone else (current houses owners & FC) are getting a lock to follow the unfairness of what every houseless individual is going throught atm with moratorium. + what is telling you MeanKty isnt a girl?
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    Last edited by Ruf; 02-15-2018 at 08:05 PM.

  4. #34
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    Komi Shouko
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leloa View Post
    I mean this was a known fact before the patch and maintance why are you surprised?
    It was a known fact like 1 week or so before 4.2 while new wards and therefore hope for a home was a known fact since months before.

    Quote Originally Posted by ChloeBamco View Post
    He doesnt understand the meaning of moratorium or why FC must have privilege for this.
    Understanding that with submarine and all that stuff FC shall have priority doesn't mean he or she has to be happy with it.
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    Last edited by Sesera; 02-15-2018 at 08:03 PM.

  5. #35
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    Rufuso Aesir
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sesera View Post
    It was a known fact like 1 week or so before 4.2 while new wards and therefore hope for a home was a known fact since months before.
    It was a known fact like 1 week or so before 4.2 while new wards and therefore hope for a personal home was a known fact since years before. {Personal Housing was introduced in patch 2.38 |(about 3 years ago)}
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    Last edited by Ruf; 02-15-2018 at 08:16 PM.

  6. #36
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    Ewitt Rainbow
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    They just need to communicate but they aren't. That is why the customers are getting upset.
    They have a problem and there is no good way to fix it.
    Fc housing should have been clearly labeled as how long it would last.
    They need to bite the bullet and retroactively apply the new rules to all wards if you currently have more then one, 1st one you enter you get to keep.

    Also fc should have been required to be older then 30 days before 4.2 dropped
    Moving forward on housing a fc should be required to be 90 days old with at last 4 members logging in within the last 30 days.

    Here are some option
    1. Housing fc only and all personal housing lost. (lots would hate this but it would be fair)
    2. Housing mins
    Large house fc 24 members min must have logged in the last 30 days
    Medium house fc 8 member min ^
    Small house fc 4 member min ^
    Small only personal
    3.Add a min of 3 wards pre patch till the player base is content,
    4.Put housing behind a paywall $1/30day instances housing large. With double outside storage. Zoned from current housing areas.
    I would gladly have a home in a 1/2 empty ward if it meant I could have one. Knowing that at a later time I could move to a full one. Or even forced to to free up server space for something.
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    Last edited by Kewitt; 02-16-2018 at 02:37 AM.
    Commendations.
    If I play dps I only give it out to other dps.
    If I play tank I only give it out to healers.
    If I play healer I only give it out to tank.

    Only if they should be getting a commendation.
    There are always exceptions to the rules!

  7. #37
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    Theophorus Trinitas
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    1) Taking all personal housing from people who currently own them is not objectively fair in the slightest and just sounds vindictive just because you didn't get anything. I'd be the first to say if SE stripped people who own houses currently, that will permanently drop subs faster than people whining about cancelling their subs because they can't get one and those same people never cancelling.

    2) The minimums per housing size is arbitrary. I definitely agree with SE wanting a min of 4 people for an FC to buy a house since you need 4 to start an FC to begin with.

    3) While not impossible per se, you are not taking into account the sheer cost of implementation of all that. Its not simply slapping in more servers and hard drives contrary to what most people believe. You have to take into account the architecture of a data center and everything from soup to nuts.

    4) No thanks. We already have a cash shop for cosmetic items, I don't want legit features locked behind a pay wall.
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  8. #38
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    Altria Pendragons
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Kewitt View Post
    Here are some option
    1. Housing fc only and all personal housing lost. (lots would hate this but it would be fair)
    2. Housing mins
    Large house fc 24 members min must have logged in the last 30 days
    Medium house fc 8 member min ^
    Small house fc 4 member min ^
    Small only personal
    3.Add a min of 3 wards pre patch till the player base is content,
    4.Put housing behind a paywall $1/30day instances housing large. With double outside storage. Zoned from current housing areas.
    .
    Get off your high horse. This is exactly the type of destructive mindset caused devs or community managers rarely respond on English forums. Make all house owners lost their properties? Why would you have to punish everyone just simply because you do not have a house? I always thought North America is a land of free but yet why I keep seeing these communism/socialism mindset?
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  9. #39
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    Rufuso Aesir
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    Leviathan
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by gbe931 View Post
    1) Taking all personal housing from people who currently own them is not objectively fair in the slightest and just sounds vindictive just because you didn't get anything. I'd be the first to say if SE stripped people who own houses currently, that will permanently drop subs faster than people whining about cancelling their subs because they can't get one and those same people never cancelling.
    2) The minimums per housing size is arbitrary. I definitely agree with SE wanting a min of 4 people for an FC to buy a house since you need 4 to start an FC to begin with.

    3) While not impossible per se, you are not taking into account the sheer cost of implementation of all that. Its not simply slapping in more servers and hard drives contrary to what most people believe. You have to take into account the architecture of a data center and everything from soup to nuts.

    4) No thanks. We already have a cash shop for cosmetic items, I don't want legit features locked behind a pay wall.
    No i do not think that taking ppl houses away would be fair but at the same time if its needed to make it fair for everyone else then it should be done if thats the main issue, secondly, be the first to say that doing that would drop subs, i beg to differ opinion, allowing to retain one house no matter what doesnt crash the rest of the game content. Someone said into another post that they already paying extra dollars for a different character so they could have more than one house, & they would be willing to pay a monthly fee for another one... you are not grasping the concept that this is greed versus a single plot wanted for everyone with adjustable size not just leftovers for a relocation later. FC only is bs. & as far as the cost of implementation, i dont believe any excuse made up upon that & yes i myself think that slapping in some servers & hard drives properly would unclog enough & architecture can be modified, forget your kupo nuts & your soup...
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    Last edited by Ruf; 02-16-2018 at 07:57 AM.

  10. #40
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    Vonleo Slanzar
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    I disagree completely people that own multiple homes and especially people that own WHOLE WARDS to themselves should be stripped of those homes the rule should be one home per account like they are trying to do and if anyone is caught owning multiple houses should be stripped of all homes they have as punishment with NO COMPENSATION. They honestly need to go hard on these people that abuse the loopholes so blatantly also this includes people that are making FCs with 4 people and then after getting the house they just kick everyone from the fc....
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