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    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    People have a right to speak out on a bad change, get over it.
    Just as I can suck it up/get over it. The only flaw in the game was making the cutscenes so integrated in the first place. The only suggestion I agree with is making these solo duties and then yes people can do whatever they want. People complained for over 3 years about having to skip cutscenes, people dropping, getting told "watch in the inn". I didn't see drama in groups but I did see people get locked out of the entire dungeon experience, which is disrespectful to their time.

    Which probably leads to that SE had to code it to a global setting which is why it affects the inn, premade, parties, unsynched parties, etc. So rant, whine, complain, throw a tantrum all you like but the most logical approach to appeasing everyone is to make these solo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wintersandman View Post
    Just as I can suck it up/get over it. The only flaw in the game was making the cutscenes so integrated in the first place. .
    It would be illogical to me to hear someone say this and then say people do not have a right to skip them.

    SE did it globally because they did a hasty change without thinking, only reason. This is simply the result of a half bake idea, no different then the glam dresser. People complained and complained on these issues while they did nothing, then overnight they try to bandaid fix then wonder why people are unhappy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    It would be illogical to me to hear someone say this and then say people do not have a right to skip them.
    Actually it's not illogical as the root of the entire 5 years of complaints plus this thread are due to either being forced to skip or not being able to skip. Do you really need me to resurrect all of the threads of people saying "Watch them in the inn" or the empathetic people saying "it's SE's fault for making the cutscenes integrated and this is the last time this happens because SE learned their lesson". This is a topic I have followed for a long time and even then I said "it sucks create your own pf" but my first time through the person i ran with said "skip the cutscenes as people don't want to wait".

    I can't speak to the glamour dresser as I haven't even looked at it and it is way off topic. I would rather they spend the resources on other things than trying to separate all of the cutscene variances for two dungeons, that I will most likely never touch until they release the next expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wintersandman View Post
    Actually it's not illogical as the root of the entire 5 years of complaints plus this thread are due to either being forced to skip or not being able to skip.
    Neither option is acceptable. You're telling us to suck it up because newbies were told that up until now... and that somehow makes the new situation right, how?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    Neither option is acceptable. You're telling us to suck it up because newbies were told that up until now... and that somehow makes the new situation right, how?
    Sorry Billy.........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wintersandman View Post
    Actually it's not illogical as the root of the entire 5 years of complaints plus this thread are due to either being forced to skip
    People where NEVER forced to skip, they where free to make their own party. Now and HW it only required one person to come along with the person that wanted take their time on them. What you are suggesting is forcing 7 people to wait 1 hour to clear something for 1 person in a pug. One person thinking that is insanely selfish. This change also hurts people that want t go their own pace, why should I be forced to watch the CS at this set speed in preform? what if I want to take longer? This change is half baked and hurts everyone, in regards no one has a choice with how they do things now. What about those that read fast and their set pace feels slow? people have a right to how quickly or slowly they go though them, you do not set the pace for people, forcing the same pace on everyone.

    People that wanted to watch the CS in a pug where free to do so, most that communicated got to do so. People kicked people for appearing to stand afk and not stay anything, or where flat out toxic expecting 7 people to wait for them.

    People had options before 4.2, now people have none, pre formed groups should have a right to skip CS regardless if they are new or not, you give people a choice, disagreeing with this simple idea and basic human right is white knighting this change for no reason what so ever.
    Quote Originally Posted by Wintersandman View Post
    I can't speak to the glamour dresser as I haven't even looked at it and it is way off topic. I would rather they spend the resources on other things than trying to separate all of the cutscene variances for two dungeons, that I will most likely never touch until they release the next expansion.
    guess what then? if they do not have the resources to properly change the MSQ!!!! then they shouldn't of did anything to them in 4.2! A much smaller and wait and see change should just been a warning about that it has lot of CS in them and it may be advised to make your own group if you want to watch them. This change on everything is too drastic, unneeded and unwanted. SE never forced people to use the duty finder or skip CS, people had a options before 4.2, now no one has none, not how you treat people, not how you treat adults.
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    Last edited by Vstarstruck; 02-16-2018 at 07:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    treat adults.
    From the tantrum you just wrote up above, should learn to control those emotions. I still can't fathom why you are so upset about this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wintersandman View Post
    From the tantrum you just wrote up above, should learn to control those emotions. I still can't fathom why you are so upset about this.
    And I can't fathom why you think an all-or-nothing solution is the best SE should aspire to implement, but here we are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hestzhyen View Post
    And I can't fathom why you think an all-or-nothing solution is the best SE should aspire to implement, but here we are.
    I already said SE should make these solo-queue and get away from them being 8 mans in the first place. This would solve both this entire thread as well as what the previous 5 years of complaints have been about. Maybe SE is stuck with an all or nothing solution or maybe they are as exhausted about hearing how new players experiences being ruined as I am. Sorry your quick exp/tomes was ruined.... not sorry.

    SE could have done something like this long ago and now are just implementing after at least a minimum of 3 years of threads talking about how they were forced to skip cutscenes and SE needed to do something about it. Starstuck is giving the same response that was given to all of those new players "form a pf" and would also probably give "you can watch them in the inn". So SE did something and a few are upset. Maybe the people who are upset about this should have been nicer to the new players. Not everyone always has access to a keyboard. As a PS4 player there are often times I am not.
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    Last edited by Wintersandman; 02-16-2018 at 08:31 AM.