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  1. #61
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    Tango185's Avatar
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    Tox Leclure
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    Archer Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Zephera View Post
    What's in it for players capped on Poetics and all combat classes at 70?
    Then there's literally no reason for you do run it anyway. Whether it takes 15 minutes or an hour, it's pointless for you. Only thing I can say is find something to spend poetics on and create room for the 200 plus any bonus. With this question of your's you're complaining about nothing.
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  2. #62
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    Zephera's Avatar
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    Zephera Mortera
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    Zalera
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Tango185 View Post
    Then there's literally no reason for you do run it anyway. Whether it takes 15 minutes or an hour, it's pointless for you. Only thing I can say is find something to spend poetics on and create room for the 200 plus any bonus. With this question of your's you're complaining about nothing.
    Okay then. Already said earlier, but that's another player who won't be queuing up, and anyone like me as well, further extending queues, cya.
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  3. #63
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    Kad Windbreaker
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    Exodus
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    Warrior Lv 80
    From one of the other threads:

    Quote Originally Posted by Kad00sh View Post
    Would it not have made more sense to: Make Cutscenes manditory, if and only if, there is a new player in the party? I can safely say my friends and I refuse to run the MSQ roulette now as 200 poetics aren't worth a mandatory 45 min dungeon. Take it back down to 100 poetics with a bonus for a new player, but make it so if someone is not new, we can speed run it at will.
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  4. #64
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    DevilKross's Avatar
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    Leon Balthier
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    Jenova
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    Marauder Lv 100
    It was always a pain to not being able to play and watch the cutscenes because other players weren't new. I'm sure asking a new guy to skip scenes and rush through the dungeon was very convenient to them but was it right? Now we can't even make the dialogues go faster which sucks but there is a lot of players coming to Eorzea for the first time. The only thing that sucks is getting castrum or praetorium with no new players in your party and still have to watch the bloody damn scenes.
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  5. #65
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    MistakeNot's Avatar
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    Auriana Redsteele
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    Paladin Lv 83
    Making mandatory cutscenes dependent on there being a new player around is a bad idea. That will only create incidents where the new player is vote kicked so the rest can speedrun the dungeon.
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  6. #66
    Player NephthysVasudan's Avatar
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    Nephthys Yamada
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    Adamantoise
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    Making mandatory cutscenes dependent on there being a new player around is a bad idea. That will only create incidents where the new player is vote kicked so the rest can speedrun the dungeon.
    In-spite of this....you can be damn sure vote-kicking a new player will cause GM Retaliation.....but people tend to not think past their own ego. (don't kid yourself - GM's will not think its funny or acceptable to do this - that being kicking a newbie because they don't want to see cut-scenes)
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  7. #67
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    Altanas Aidendale
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 70
    My experience since 4.2 in the Praetoriam

    1. It still didnt stop veteran players from ignoring the dungeon and training all the mobs and warping through, resulting in newbie players to die. None of the veterans even spoke or apologised despite the newbie asking whats going on. When I explained to the newbie that he could Return and warp across to us instead of going through that part of the zone again, he was thankful but still confused. But heres what shocked me next: the other newbie started ranting at him for wasting everyones time and that she just wanted to get it done.... The veterans all the while just said nothing.

    2. Furthering on, the veterans ran straight up the elevator and clicked it to ascend leaving the newbies below. At this point there was finally some comment from a veteran ("At least give them time to get on."). When the newbies did come up eventually, none had picked up magitek keys so went up and down the elevator multiple times. By the time we got to Nero, the newbies were locked out of the fight.

    3. Another problem is the Bosses dont last long at all and mechanics are ignored completely. You dont see any or much of the flavour text during the fights.


    Really, MSQ roulette should be removed and its rewards sprinkled elsewhere. And those Dungeons should be reworked as Solo Instances.
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  8. #68
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    hynaku's Avatar
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    Inglis Eucus
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    Cuchulainn
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by teegees View Post
    Read the patch notes and don't be selfish.

    There are million other things you can do if you don't like it but no other way to see the story. And it's not like the new rewards aren't exceptionally generous. 4x the xp and tokens for something that takes 3x as long.
    What exp. boost all I got was 2,203,000 exp. from it. I could get that much from a lot other dungeons that take way less time to run. If it was 4x the exp. should get over 4mil from it. After seeing how little exp. get from it think just run potd and never run main story roulette again that ran everyday that i'm on. If they wanted to really fix it don't put new players in the roulette party for them or give you option where can let new players in roulette party you join and be prepared to watch cut scenes.
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    Last edited by hynaku; 02-19-2018 at 03:13 AM.

  9. #69
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    Claire Pendragon
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    Mateus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by hynaku View Post
    What exp. boost all I got was 2,203,000 exp. from it. I could get that much from a lot other dungeons that take way less time to run. If it was 4x the exp. should get over 4mil from it. After seeing how little exp. get from it think just run potd and never run main story roulette again that ran everyday that i'm on. If they wanted to really fix it don't put new players in the roulette party for them or give you option where can let new players in roulette party you join and be prepared to watch cut scenes.
    Castrum Meridianum used to give roughly 1% the total exp needed to gain a level. Now gives 20% of a level. (more if your below Lv60 so I hear)
    Its not an effective exp/hour method, but its a massive boost from the last time I ran it. (Some say its given more than 1%, and some say it was less, but there may have been a ninja boost at some point between the two points.)
    Praetorium used to give 1.8% of a levels worth of exp, where as now it gives almost a full levels worth of exp at Lv69.

    I'm sorry, but I'm more than happy with the current results, and if they want to boost the exp further, all the better, ill be running these things all the time, until I run out of things I enjoy leveling.
    Only issue is that at Lv70, im not interesting in poetics, so I stopped having a reason to run it. (give us creation, and maybe 5 tomes of medacity, something tiny as a daily, and ill run my Lv70 alt characters through it when I wanna gear them up more)
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    CLAIRE PENDRAGON

  10. #70
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    hynaku's Avatar
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    Inglis Eucus
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    Cuchulainn
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Good luck with those que times how it is now. Soon there be over a hour from all players not running it anymore. I would rather have a low que time than very long one.
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