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  1. #231
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    Quote Originally Posted by Besame View Post
    Yes SE made mistakes by allowing FCs and house owners more than 24-48 hrs to move/relocate. Yes their housing system is FAIL and from what I have seen, they have been stringing people along with empty housing promises for a few years. I started with a small over a year ago then got lucky and stumbled on a medium. Put your time in first time buyers, pay your dues then relocate when you can. Crying on the forums is not going to change anything. I still have the same medium I originally purchased in the same place.
    Im not crying & you can keep your put your time in & pay your dues comments, ive played xi for 10years & in 1night se take/can take all your efforts & trash them like its soo popular here to outdate your hard earned gears that you took a month+ to get (from weekly restiction) just to make it shit the next morning. Marketting approach? I dont want to hear this either, because in a lot of cases, programmers arnt players, or in a lot of cases, vendors arnt players & often they dont give 2cent about the community, my point is, while i dont want to see other games mimickd, this has been pretty much the case as years moved, with added cashshops & what not,I am against it & I always will be, no one should have to go from that shitty housing system while it could be really fair & square & three times better.
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  2. #232
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    Oh & i forgot, if your argument is that well we reach a hard difficulty lvl cap, so we need higher ilvl & what not, then i completly disagree again because, new zones of same lvl could be added, developpment efforts could be put into new mechanics,new dungeons, new character models & more jobs could get added or you know fixing bugs/issues to a whole new lvl besides plasters & booboo kisses/decoys, so on so on(example:we get new mounts with generic mounts music..."hinthint" without saying to create a new song, some other zones/themes music could be used) no i do not think new ilvl gears is necessarily end game (just like restricting 6 larges per ward with infinite players isnt end game either) while this is how it got settled because of what again? $$$? fast outdating is how its supposedly done.Theres soo many possibilitys but instead we are stuck with what we are stuck with.

    P.s: I miss bad graphics, at least we had better games (content wise) & while it doesnt apply everywhere, yes in some case old games are better...
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  3. #233
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruf View Post
    Oh & i forgot, if your argument is that well we reach a hard difficulty lvl cap, so we need higher ilvl & what not, then i completly disagree again because, new zones of same lvl could be added, developpment efforts could be put into new mechanics,new dungeons, new character models & more jobs could get added or you know fixing bugs/issues to a whole new lvl besides plasters & booboo kisses/decoys, so on so on(example:we get new mounts with generic mounts music..."hinthint" without saying to create a new song, some other zones/themes music could be used) no i do not think new ilvl gears is necessarily end game (just like restricting 6 larges per ward with infinite players isnt end game either) while this is how it got settled because of what again? $$$? fast outdating is how its supposedly done.Theres soo many possibilitys but instead we are stuck with what we are stuck with.

    P.s: I miss bad graphics, at least we had better games (content wise) & while it doesnt apply everywhere, yes in some case old games are better...
    ...now you've just lost yourself on a ramble that shows that you dont really understand much here.
    They cant just put the development of new content completly on hold to revamp the game - they did that once when 1.0 was absolute shit, they wont do it again. And its not even needed right now.
    Right now, that would kill the game - we're already hearing many complains about "I'm bored, there isnt enough content to do!". Do you really think, people would go half a year without any new content? You're in the minority when you dont care about new gear/glamour, raids or dungeons.
    Developing new content while slowly working to fix the current one and the underlying issues is the way to go. And it seems to be the way they're taking right now.
    That means you cant have it NOW. That means you need to be patient - even if you're, for some reason, worried you'd be dead next year (seriously, if you worry about dying within the next year, your last concern should be a virtual house in a videogame - living with the assumption of sudden death sounds unhealthy to me).
    Bringing up completly unrelated issues to this situiation and turning this thread into your personal ramble on "what I hate about this game" isnt really constructive or productive.

    If you prefer older games or other games than this and and are so upset about not having a house in FFXIV, may I suggest playing one of the older/other games you prefer? I know thats a cheap and shitty suggestion but you dont seem to enjoy the game that FFXIV is/has becoming - for whatever reason (if the reason really only is the housing situation I'd consider that a bit pathetic, personally - its only one part of the game and a part that we didnt had for like the first year at all. And we still enjoyed playing the game...) - and instead of paying good money for something that only upsets you, why not invest that money in something else?
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  5. #234
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vidu View Post
    They cant just put the development of new content completly on hold to revamp the game (I did not say to do that completly, if anything bare minimum is done tho) - they did that once when 1.0 was absolute shit (it worked to some extent), they wont do it again. And its not even needed right now(thats your opinion)Right now, that would kill the game(you dont know that, i think you are wrong 'thats my opinion") - we're already hearing many complains about "I'm bored, there isnt enough content to do!" (I do not personally hear theses comments, i started a lalafell as im about to reach all jobs capped so i chose to start again for a change but that whole climb is a lot of content & not everyone is up there so thats a lot of content). Do you really think, people would go half a year without any new content?(that is an exagerated amount of time, just like saying get a small house & wait for a bigger house chance with relocation in a year!Matter of fact the stringing ppl to no house because all plots were taken for years or subtly telling players to change server for open plots or/and the current moratorium is ridiculous & exagerated also) You're in the minority when you dont care about new gear/glamour, raids or dungeons.(probably but that was just a tiny portion of the plenitude of lame excuses i can come up with that we have seen + i would not be surprised that afterall there is more players that think like me on the matter, i see many players with just one job that spend most their times in wards & houses versus doing something else)
    Developing new content while slowly working to fix the current one and the underlying issues is the way to go. And it seems to be the way they're taking right now.(thats one of the lame excuse, to me it feels like stubbornness & for years 90% was on new content vs 9.99999% on fixing housing issue "my opinion" which brings back to "it feel like" nothing was done but to add band-aids")
    That means you cant have it NOW. That means you need to be patient(F like ppl havnt been patient,we are not speaking about a short period,at this rate a decade could happen & nothing would be square/fair...) - even if you're, for some reason, worried you'd be dead next year (seriously, if you worry about dying within the next year, your last concern should be a virtual house in a videogame - living with the assumption of sudden death sounds unhealthy to me).YOUCANTPREDICTFUTURE#&@?#$?$*$
    Bringing up completly unrelated issues to this situiation and turning this thread into your personal ramble on "what I hate about this game" isnt really constructive or productive. (it is related, xiv has used xi as an ancestor & by older games are better at times,,, well "hinthint" my opinion , my rambling, as this obviously isnt the happy thread part of the housing forum) Examples validate some comments said

    If you prefer older games or other games than this and and are so upset about not having a house in FFXIV, may I suggest playing one of the older/other games you prefer?(I do already,I wouldnt of said this if i was not + if you read before this, i did say ffxiv was a good game, but again ill repeat myself, theres soo much potential that feels wasted for many of us) I know thats a cheap and shitty suggestion but you dont seem to enjoy the game that FFXIV is/has becoming - for whatever reason (if the reason really only is the housing situation I'd consider that a bit pathetic, personally - its only one part of the game and a part that we didnt had for like the first year at all. And we still enjoyed playing the game...) (I did not say im not enjoying the game & yes its a cheap & shitty suggestion imo & because i didnt say this, i didnt give a reason & if i was to , it would be mostly it so in the end I find what you typed there pathetic) and instead of paying good money for something that only upsets you, why not invest that money in something else?(Whoever unsubbed probably thought that)
    There i found myself back throught out my ramble

    P.s: it seems some players are wondering if they can get reimbursed their playtimes also...
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  6. #235
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    Companies benefit more from medium and large plots than they do small, so it makes sense that companies should get dibs on medium and large houses. However some individuals have the money to swipe up medium and large houses and will do it just because they can, so companies maybe only own 10-15 houses per ward whilst the majority of smalls are snapped up by individuals. From what I'm seeing small houses are mostly ignored by companies unless they're completely desperate due to lack of houses or they already have a small and can't find any medium or large plots to relocate to, so there's now quite a lot of empty smalls being ignored whilst all the medium and large houses are already taken. Perhaps it's about time individuals were given a chance to claim houses since companies aren't as interested in the small ones?

    And I agree that when they put in the housing relocation that the medium and large houses should've been limited to companies if it wasn't already, there's no reason for individuals to own medium and large houses except bragging rights and that's not a good reason at all.
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  8. #236
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    Relocation allowed grandfathered individual to swipe them already, + that FC get first dib sure is fine but that was exagerated on the time scale & INDIVIDUALS WANT MANSIONS ALSO
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  9. #237
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    Quote Originally Posted by geekgirl101 View Post
    Companies benefit more from medium and large plots than they do small, so it makes sense that companies should get dibs on medium and large houses.
    I've seen this sentiment expressed before and yet it continues to elude me - how does an FC benefit more from a medium or large plot than a small one? You can have all but I think one vendor type in a small plot (actually might be able to have all since the change). Crafting stations are useless past level 60 and only provide a miniscule bonus to CP. The two extra garden plots are usually not an FC wide thing. In fact, the things that an FC would presumably benefit more from by owning a medium or large house are the same benefits that an individual owner would have over a small.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    I've seen this sentiment expressed before and yet it continues to elude me - how does an FC benefit more from a medium or large plot than a small one? You can have all but I think one vendor type in a small plot (actually might be able to have all since the change). Crafting stations are useless past level 60 and only provide a miniscule bonus to CP. The two extra garden plots are usually not an FC wide thing. In fact, the things that an FC would presumably benefit more from by owning a medium or large house are the same benefits that an individual owner would have over a small.
    Exactly it elude me also, why do FC deserve mansions more than individuals? why is that bs system set like this? No nevermind dont reply back pls,severals persons before you said why fc benefit more from mansion and medium houses & tbh? I find it that like 1% if not 5% of the arguments are valid, which leave at 95% why I disagree that mediums & larges should be fc only & no individuals shouldnt be locked with moratorium while single players that owned a house already got to relocalized to a bigger size plot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quizzi View Post
    ... The amount of hatred small houses are getting in this thread is a huge bummer tbh. I've had a small for years-- my first was in the Goblet in kind of a blah spot for two years but I loved it anyway, and with the patch I relocated to my dream small plot in the Mist (where my character ACTUALLY lives IC) when I could've easily bought a mansion. Hell, even my tiny RP FC is in a small house that we adore. Smalls are great. You can do a lot with them, especially if you're clever!
    ....
    I'm actually rather satisfied with my apartment...

    Except that I can't properly garden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quizzi View Post
    ... The amount of hatred small houses are getting in this thread is a huge bummer tbh. I've had a small for years-- my first was in the Goblet in kind of a blah spot for two years but I loved it anyway, and with the patch I relocated to my dream small plot in the Mist (where my character ACTUALLY lives IC) when I could've easily bought a mansion. Hell, even my tiny RP FC is in a small house that we adore. Smalls are great. You can do a lot with them, especially if you're clever!
    I actually relocated from a medium back to a small. I consider myself to be pretty clever with decorating, but I've never been happy with my designs in my mediums. My little cottage is perfect... just the right amount of space and items to make something cozy and special.
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