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  1. #21
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    As for the "make FC with your alts" suggestion, I guess that could work for some. However it shouldn't be the only solution for this situation. Personal housing, especially how they now have decreed, should be personal on player basis, since it's locked to one/account. And really, what harm would it be to let us access the house services on all alt characters (such as vendors, stable, bells and teleport etc)
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    If you say 'pls' because it's shorter than 'please', I say 'no' because it's shorter than 'yes'.

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    What exactly is the reason people want to share ownership of a house with their alts on the same account? Is it really that big a deal when you could simply hop onto the character that has ownership whenever something needs to be done only the owner can do? Seems like a pretty low priority QoL request if you ask me. In fact, it sounds more likely to open up possible exploits by doing this.
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    The only thing I think can be abused is the house furnishing and that's one thing that could be left out. What I would like to be able to use with an alt is material vendors, retainer bell, melder, repairer, to be able to change orchestrion music. Basically, to use the house as tenants can.
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    If you say 'pls' because it's shorter than 'please', I say 'no' because it's shorter than 'yes'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe777 View Post
    What exactly is the reason
    Basically why anyone would want a house on the one chara, and for RPers that would also mean a lot. Sure you can just teleport there if you wanna go there but that's just a hassle. Frankly there's no reason not to allow it either because that house is already out of the market, and it's not like those alts can buy any other houses anyway - I mean even getting an FC house is the one buy between all of them, and that's if none of them are in a house-owning FC to begin with.

    Is it really that big a deal when you could simply hop onto the character that has ownership whenever something needs to be done only the owner can do?
    You can't stable your chocobo if you don't have access to a house, for one. Can't pick up crops either. And depending on loading times, switching charas can be very time consuming and that's without taking queues into consideration.

    In fact, it sounds more likely to open up possible exploits by doing this.
    I can't imagine any exploit this will open that aren't already made available by people creating FCs of their own alts, something people have done to get around some of the new restictions already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BillyKaplan View Post
    Basically why anyone would want a house on the one chara, and for RPers that would also mean a lot. Sure you can just teleport there if you wanna go there but that's just a hassle.
    RP is also a good point. Such a simple thing as changing orchestrion music requiring login-logout cycle in the middle of an event is foolish.
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    If you say 'pls' because it's shorter than 'please', I say 'no' because it's shorter than 'yes'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe777 View Post
    What exactly is the reason people want to share ownership of a house with their alts on the same account? Is it really that big a deal when you could simply hop onto the character that has ownership whenever something needs to be done only the owner can do? Seems like a pretty low priority QoL request if you ask me. In fact, it sounds more likely to open up possible exploits by doing this.
    I read a few posts on here that someone had a few houses on diff chrs on the same account for the sole reason SE has no system to let the house owner have ownership rights on the house. They even said they would give up the other plots and only have one house if SE allowed it.

    There is no exploitation, SE is just stubborn with their 1.0 code in how same account cant item transfer and such for more room. Also someone may want an alt to access the house so they can store furnishings on the alt and not go though a big hassle to transfer items from one character to the next.
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    No, because server limitations.

    There is however a new glitch on which you can add an alt to your friend list to send mail and thus also your house.
    You need 2 PC's for this, it involves logging into client on the other PC while on the old login you travel and have loading screen.

    At least there are some glitches that you can use to bypass the 'server limitation'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sida View Post
    RP is also a good point. Such a simple thing as changing orchestrion music requiring login-logout cycle in the middle of an event is inconvenient.
    FTFY since foolish is hardly an appropriate word to describe this. And I do suppose having alt access to house functions is a definite plus but I assumed you could just grant them permission to do that stuff. Guess I was mistaken thinking you could do it with alts. Either way, if SE does decide to do this it will no doubt be in a future major patch.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vstarstruck View Post
    I read a few posts on here that someone had a few houses on diff chrs on the same account for the sole reason SE has no system to let the house owner have ownership rights on the house. They even said they would give up the other plots and only have one house if SE allowed it.

    There is no exploitation, SE is just stubborn with their 1.0 code in how same account cant item transfer and such for more room. Also someone may want an alt to access the house so they can store furnishings on the alt and not go though a big hassle to transfer items from one character to the next.
    The transfer of items in that manner is along the lines of the exploiting I referred to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe777 View Post
    The transfer of items in that manner is along the lines of the exploiting I referred to.
    Between personal FCs and people with multiple service account it's not anything that's not currently done en-masse already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe777 View Post
    FTFY since foolish is hardly an appropriate word to describe this. And I do suppose having alt access to house functions is a definite plus but I assumed you could just grant them permission to do that stuff. Guess I was mistaken thinking you could do it with alts. Either way, if SE does decide to do this it will no doubt be in a future major patch.



    The transfer of items in that manner is along the lines of the exploiting I referred to.
    You do realize this is possible now right? it is just massively inconvenient for no reason. How is giving housing items to your own characters an exploit? This is how one defines being paranoid right?
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