SE Needs to Auto-disband FCs

[Almagnus1]

So going by https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes.../housing_land/, the restrictions for FC purchases are:

• 4 or more members
• Rank 6 or higher
• Does not currently own an FC house

Also, going by https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...t_freecompany/, there needs to be at least four members to found an FC.

The last thing that's missing with this is enforcing that all FCs have at least four members, or they have a week (or a month) before the server automatically disbands the FC because it is too small.

IMO, this is a necessary feature for FCs that should have always been there.

[Dualgunner]

People would field an fc with three other alts just to stay solo. This would be a worthless enforcement that wastes resources and affects nothing.

[HyoMinPark]

And, why should SE implement these “restrictions”? What if a small FC of 2~3 friends doesn’t even want to buy a house, but just be in a Free Company together so that they can make use of the private FC chat (without taking up an LS spot, since those are limited), or the FC chest? Why punish them for not having 4 members (especially if they aren’t interested in buying a house—hard to believe, but not everyone wants a house)?

I get that you’re “angry” about the Housing situation, but implementing even more arbitrary restrictions or punishing players that only have 1 or 2 friends in the game for not wanting random people in their FC is not the answer. SE never removes old characters that haven’t been used in years. They won’t even delete the mass amounts of RMT bots that have been banned in the past. What makes you think they’re going to start auto-disbanding Free Companies?

[Risvertasashi]

FCs will already lose their house in inactive. FC leaderships will already automatically transfer if the leader is inactive.

This is an utterly pointless suggestion. There's no reason to limit the existence of FCs, they take up no limited resource. And as for limited housing, auto demolition is already in place.

[Almagnus1]

People would field an fc with three other alts just to stay solo. This would be a worthless enforcement that wastes resources and affects nothing.

And, why should SE implement these “restrictions”? What if a small FC of 2~3 friends doesn’t even want to buy a house, but just be in a Free Company together so that they can make use of the private FC chat (without taking up an LS spot, since those are limited), or the FC chest? Why punish them for not having 4 members (especially if they aren’t interested in buying a house—hard to believe, but not everyone wants a house)?

So why should they be allowed to drop below 4 players in the first place?

Both pieces of information indicate that the minimum FC size should be 4.

I get that you’re “angry” about the Housing situation, but implementing even more arbitrary restrictions or punishing players that only have 1 or 2 friends in the game for not wanting random people in their FC is not the answer. SE never removes old characters that haven’t been used in years. They won’t even delete the mass amounts of RMT bots that have been banned in the past. What makes you think they’re going to start auto-disbanding Free Companies?

Why are you bringing in unrelated issues? Please leave your emotional baggage in the other thread.

FCs will already lose their house in inactive. FC leaderships will already automatically transfer if the leader is inactive.

This is an utterly pointless suggestion. There's no reason to limit the existence of FCs, they take up no limited resource. And as for limited housing, auto demolition is already in place.

Again, it seems like SE thinks the minimum size for an FC should be 4. Is it really a good thing to have an FC drop below four players?

[Elamys]

SE thinks the minimum size of an FC that wants to own a house should be four. The requirement of four members to found the company is trivial and is the only other instance in which 4 members are required. FCs of less than four members that don't even care about housing have literally zero negative impact.

[HyoMinPark]

So why should they be allowed to drop below 4 players in the first place?

Both pieces of information indicate that the minimum FC size should be 4.

And? Requirements to personal housing purchases also state that you have to be Second Lieutenant in your current Grand Company AND be level 50. Are you going to propose we add those restrictions to FC formations as well because they’re present for Housing?

The requirements state that you need 4 members to form an FC, yes. But nowhere in them do they state you have to maintain such a minimum. What if one of the 4 players decides to quit the game and deletes their character? Or they have a falling out with one of the other individuals in the FC? Should the FC as a whole be punished and forcibly disbanded if one decided to quit, or if two get into an argument and one leaves? No. That’s silly. Why do you care if FCs drop below 4 members? What sort of burden does it place on you, or the playerbase as a whole? You make this proposition, but you give no reasoning to back them up.

“Why should they be allowed to drop below 4 members in the first place”? Why should they be forced to maintain a minimum member count in the first place?

Why are you bringing in unrelated issues? Please leave your emotional baggage in the other thread.

Your propositions in this thread are directly related to Housing, which you were discussing in your other thread. These two threads are related, whether you want to openly acknowledge that or not. If this thread was related just to FCs with sub-four members, and not Housing at all in any shape or fashion, you wouldn’t be citing Housing requirements in your OP. And, if it’s not related to Housing, then again: why do you care if an FC drops below 4 members or not? An FC with 3 members can’t purchase a house anyways, so why do you care if it exists as it is?

You should probably also learn what “emotional baggage” actually means; you’re the only one getting overly heated, hostile, and defensive in your own threads, not me.

[Nalfein]

Why are you bringing in unrelated issues? Please leave your emotional baggage in the other thread.

To be fair, sounds like you're the one with emotional issues here. Your suggestion sounds like the fastest way to lose customers.

[Almagnus1]

The requirement of four members to found the company is trivial and is the only other instance in which 4 members are required.

I agree as well, as it means you may have to **gasp** be social and actually recruit people should the following things that normally kill guilds/FCs happen:

What if one of the 4 players decides to quit the game and deletes their character?

Or they have a falling out with one of the other individuals in the FC?

Should the FC as a whole be punished and forcibly disbanded if one decided to quit, or if two get into an argument and one leaves?

In almost all of those situations, someone can roll an alt and pad the roster with said alt to keep member count above four, assuming that the FC isn't far above four members to begin with, which (going by what Elamys has said) is a trivial thing to do.

To be fair, sounds like you're the one with emotional issues here. Your suggestion sounds like the fastest way to lose customers.

To be quite blunt, I'm getting really tired of dealing with that drama queen and her herd of drama llamas. They really need to ride on back to the Andes.

[HyoMinPark]

To be quite blunt, I'm getting really tired of dealing with that drama queen and her herd of drama llamas. They really need to ride on back to the Andes.

I see that the new trend is to resort to name-calling whenever someone disagrees with you. If anyone is acting dramatic in these threads, it's you, hun. I don't need a "herd of drama llamas" to debate with people. The individual you debated with back and forth in your other thread has no association with me, so, I'm curious where this "herd" is.

I disagree with all of your suggestions in this thread and your other thread because they are arbitrary and serve no purpose, and because you cannot give any reasonable, non-emotional responses to back them up. Aside from the fact that, when people make counterarguments or ask questions, you ignore them or respond with nothing but outright hostility.

Elamys' statement seemed to correspond with my own: FCs with less than 4 members have absolutely no negative impact on you or the Housing situation. Which, again, you brought up Housing in this thread. So, I ask you again, why do you care if they exist just as they are? Why add in all these pointless restrictions of "FCs are required to keep a minimum of 4 members at all times, or else they with be automatically disbanded"? Give me actual, non-emotional reasons to back up your proposal. If you can't formulate reasons to back them up, then don't make them.