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    Player Dualgunner's Avatar
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    Lilila Lila
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    Not really, considering those are built into the system to begin with. They're data that's expected to be attached to the player. A glamour log, for every item in the game, exceeding all those other logs, isn't already planned for, and so would be a significant chunk of data to carry around everywhere.
    Then glam log should have been built in for the system to begin with. The glamour system from the start was a mess, and this isn't fixing it any. From the start it should have been a glamour log that they could have built on just like they've built on the DoH and DoL logs.

    It's like you just assume these don't come at a cost. DoL logs exist because they've planned for and allotted that data. Glamour logs don't exist because that's more data than they can presently allot to characters.
    Okay, let's talk costs. I'll gladly get rid of the fishing log entirely, along with all the useless fish in the game (differentiating from the useful fish; I mean the useless fish that have no value to anything whatsoever) for a glamour log instead.

    Surely lugging around that I caught a carpenter crab into a dungeon is unnecessary.

    Not saying I perfectly understand the system, or am even certain of the veracity of these claims. But I do kinda feel that if it were supposedly so easy, surely it would've been done. There's more at play here than "just do it already."
    I'm sure it's not so easy as "just do it already". But there is definitely "stop running in circles trying to play monkey's paw with the playerbase."

    "Can we color chocobos?"
    "Yes"
    "YAY"
    "Through a needlessly convoluted system that in effect probably puts more strain on the servers than simply dumping a bucket of paint on the chocobo, conveniences nobody, and requires a system that grants boons only to home owners."

    Which of course, goes back to (and a common complaint for the dresser in the first place): if you're gonna do it, do it right in the first place.
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    Hashmael Lightswain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dualgunner View Post
    Then glam log should have been built in for the system to begin with.
    So, shut down the game for a few months/year+ while they rebuild the game from the ground up?
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    Altena Trife
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hasrat View Post
    So, shut down the game for a few months/year+ while they rebuild the game from the ground up?
    If they would have to rebuild the game to build a log into their game, they must be dealing with some seriously poor programming. But they actually don't.
    I mean they added the Sightseeing log much later than release..
    They also added triple triad card log.
    Challenge log.
    Orchestrion List.

    Are these not all essentially the same thing?
    List of items / rewards with a yes/no check...

    I suspect you don't really know what you're talking about.
    The reason they haven't added a "glamour log" is the sheer amount of gear that is already in the game and the need to add every single piece of gear into that list.
    Just think about it logically. It's like adding the entire crafting log (again), plus all of the dungeon and raid gear, all the pvp gear.. For every class..
    With the dresser, all they need to display is the stuff you have put into the dresser. It's treated as an item you deposit - rather than a list of "possible items" (like for example - the market board).

    It has nothing to do with "the system wasn't in the game so they can't do it." I am almost certain they can absolutely do it. It's just that it's not worth it.
    Their problem is that the amount of gear a player can equip in a multi-class game such as this is just enormous. And to pull off the traditional glamour log system would mean listing a rediculous amount of gear. This equates to a stupidly high amount of work this late down the line, from development time to testing.
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    Last edited by Altena; 02-12-2018 at 11:37 AM.

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