Regarding AST

[VanilleFang]

Forgive me if I'm a bit jaded toward supposed AST weakness at the moment. Current meta still calls for SCH/AST comp, after prog.

I'm also a bit confused why it always seems that some AST mains always act as if the sky is falling when they aren't blatantly OP. AST is in a perfectly fine place right now. Healers have no where near the level of disparity that they had in HW.

[KDSilver]

I'm not main AST (if that's what you understood)
I'm raiding as a Scholar most of the time, but I play the three healer. (and play as a scholar almost since the beginning of my sub)

I like healing in general and the three of them.
I never debate around healer because "my class is not OP" or anything. (something i find stupid)

As I said no they aren't like in HW indeed. I was just pointing some Ast's weakness in comparison.
But yes, right now, there's no need for any changes, even if some really little changes could eventually be good.
But again, not absolutly needeed to heal properly.

[VanilleFang]

snip.

I wasn't referring to you. Sorry if it seemed I was.

[KDSilver]

Sorry then ! Since I was talking about AST
Np !

[Vyriah]

What about AST OGCD game is weak ? They clearly have the most powerfull ones, that's why they don't have a lot of them. And they have pretty low cooldown for what they do. Again, a simple healer vs healer vs healer means absolutly nothing. Everyone use this to make every other job both the worst and the best at the same time.

It's the healer that would benefit the most from having an instant cast spell, but they sure don't need more OGCD they alreday have. Most of AST gameplay is OGCD, just managing cards is 6 OGCD, 9 with discards. Clearly, having even more of them won't get AST a better uptime at all. It'll make the job much more cluncky to play.

We absolutly don't need healer that are tailored arround what SCH is right now.

[LachleinStratos]

Ast isn't in a bad spot. Ast isn't weak.
I totally agree. We're far from what healers were in Heavensward.

However, Ast still stay weaker than Whm and Sch.
Only a full aoe balance uptime would make it better at increasing raid dps.
He still lacks of oGCD healing and has the worst mana among healers.

Yes, every healers are totally capable of doing the content, even very well.
He's just behind but it's more balanced now so it's okay.

What hurt Ast is Whm being able to use Devine Benision every 30s and Sch having succor buffed.
A good WHM who can provide a very good healing and dps overshadow ast buff. And SCH is SCH. His versatile toolkit, aetherflow and fairy and buffs will always make him far better than ast as the "shielder healer".

But again, I repeat myself, it doesn't make Ast weak at all. They made good adjustment so far.
That's just an analysis over all my game experience and everything I've read and watched among the FFXIV community

If they had to make adjustments right now (it's not necessary cause Ast can still do the job well, but in comparison with other healers..) it could be really small. Like maybe increase Malefic III potency to 230. Reduce Aspected Helios and Benefic mana cost (small reduce). Cause Ast lost one server tick for his mana refresh. Luminferous Aether used to be at 24s (+10 with CO).
And yes, one small increase to Malefic because as I said, Ast can't beat WHM unless he has great aoe uptime buff (especially balance).
And a very small potency buff to Nocturnal Stance who still can't compete with Scholar's toolkit. (aspected helio especially).

Any major changes will be done at 5.0

Also, I agree a 4th healer is needeed so Astrologian could gain his "own indentity" (and not just the "be paired with a whm or a sch")

I really like this thanks for sharing! Totally agree about astrologian need his own identity. Cant wait to see this come true.

[Johaandr]

I do know how to play AST
Just cant be bothered placing combust 1 by 1, AERO 3 & BANE miasa + bio is OVERPOWERED
Giving spire movement speed instead of useless TP is RIDICULOUS OVERPOWERED

Dont see how this is making AST ridiculous just trying to make inconvenient and situational spells more interesting

No you dont. This comes from a high experienced main ast during when ast was bad in HW till deltascape savage. Playing sch now

Cards compensate ur dps anyways. And if you are stupid enough to use aoe card on 4 man then u have no right to come up with this silly suggestion. NEVER use aoe card ON 4 MAN. Enchance it or extend it. Not expand it on 4 man. You "will" notice how much ur playing with ur cards.

[LachleinStratos]

No you dont. This comes from a high experienced main ast during when ast was bad in HW till deltascape savage. Playing sch now

Cards compensate ur dps anyways. And if you are stupid enough to use aoe card on 4 man then u have no right to come up with this silly suggestion. NEVER use aoe card ON 4 MAN. Enchance it or extend it. Not expand it on 4 man. You "will" notice how much ur playing with ur cards.

Thanks for your feedback. I never claimed that i aoe my card on 4 man. All im seeing is spire is what it is now and suggest it to become more interesting.
May i please do you still main AST or main SCH now? If no longer main AST what was your reason? cheers

[Johaandr]

Thanks for your feedback. I never claimed that i aoe my card on 4 man. All im seeing is spire is what it is now and suggest it to become more interesting.
May i please do you still main AST or main SCH now? If no longer main AST what was your reason? cheers

Never claimed u did ^^. Aoe in dungeon was just a pure example and i suck at being constructive in my posts but i hope you get my point. Spire is just a aoe slave. Or arcana

The reason i changed from ast to sch is only because of static reasons. My cohlr plays Ast and can play whm too. I play ast and can play sch.
Its my personal thing that i dislike raiding with NoctAst/Whm. It is doable but i mostly prefer ast/sch or sch/whm.

[LachleinStratos]

Never claimed u did ^^. Aoe in dungeon was just a pure example and i suck at being constructive in my posts but i hope you get my point. Spire is just a aoe slave. Or arcana

The reason i changed from ast to sch is only because of static reasons. My cohlr plays Ast and can play whm too. I play ast and can play sch.
Its my personal thing that i dislike raiding with NoctAst/Whm. It is doable but i mostly prefer ast/sch or sch/whm.

Ah right i love my regen too but because of raid composition you have no choice but to go noct :/