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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    Developers are people too.

    If developers didn't make mistakes, there'd be no reason to have Q/A or playtesting.

    What they have is a difference of opinion. They believe there is no major disadvantage or advantage to compositions, but that is objectively false.
    I did acknowledge that people can make mistakes. It is not, however, a matter of opinion to look at hard lined, mathematical data and say 'there is no major advantage of disadvantage to compositions.' That is an objective statement anchored in mathematical data subsets.

    As a community, we cannot argue against that statement. All of our data, relative to the developers, is incomplete.

    What the developers said is objectively true, not false.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    I did acknowledge that people can make mistakes. It is not, however, a matter of opinion to look at hard lined, mathematical data and say 'there is no major advantage of disadvantage to compositions.' That is an objective statement anchored in mathematical data subsets.

    As a community, we cannot argue against that statement. All of our data, relative to the developers, is incomplete.
    That is an assumption, and subjective by nature. You cannot make this claim with certainty and thus the argument is, while somewhat valid, not indisputable in the least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eli85 View Post
    As a community, we cannot argue against that statement. All of our data, relative to the developers, is incomplete.

    What the developers said is objectively true, not false.
    Even this very LL that you use as an argument proved that devs make mistakes and overlook stuff - look at their comments about tank LB. We have situations like that all the time. Another thing is, they don't play on optimal level. All they stated is that the balance doesn't affect normal players, which is true. But neither does meta. What we talk here is about speedkills, where even 1 point of DPS matters.
    You want to fight solid math with words that might as well be a PR. There is no point.
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    Last edited by Terkhev; 02-11-2018 at 08:15 PM.