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Thread: Warrior is OP

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    He's coming off as rude because he believes you are attacking WAR and feels WAR's burst should go towards the bosses HP. Which honestly if you know the mechanics and pushing that phase gets a faster clear it's a win win in my book.
    yup, raid dps on the boss is more important that you personal dps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BluexBird View Post
    Congratulations. You mentioned the only situation in the entire game EVER where burst DPS actually counts for something. You want a cookie?

    Trying to skip ghost in O5S is somewhat stretching things. It is by no means necessary, and the advantage you gain by doing that is marginal. This isn't like tank LBing Byakko. In fact, it's almost borderline lazy. "Oh, but the DPS gain..." You mean the DPS you gain from wasting the Warrior's biggest and ONLY high damage window on something that won't even affect that boss' HP? Yay, you skipped ghosts! Warrior also lost the potential to do over 100k damage to the boss. Not to mention the risk of your loafing screen taking longer than usual, causing a wipe. But yeah, by all means, keep on skipping ghosts.
    Your post is too salty for who clearly did not understand the mech you are talking about. You just forgot to think about the dps gain of 7 other people who would be able to hit the boss a lot earlier. And I'm not even taking in account the gain healers would have for not bringing in Esuna and the other tank for not needing to spend mitigations against his ghost.

    But I guess it doesn't matter anymore since it seems to be patched now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xan_Kriegor View Post
    Your post is too salty for who clearly did not understand the mech you are talking about. You just forgot to think about the dps gain of 7 other people who would be able to hit the boss a lot earlier. And I'm not even taking in account the gain healers would have for not bringing in Esuna and the other tank for not needing to spend mitigations against his ghost.

    But I guess it doesn't matter anymore since it seems to be patched now.
    Is it patched? I've seen conflicting messages on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aana View Post
    Is it patched? I've seen conflicting messages on that.
    I am not sure either. I read somewhere that it was patched and I didn't see nobody skipping it on streams yesterday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xan_Kriegor View Post
    I am not sure either. I read somewhere that it was patched and I didn't see nobody skipping it on streams yesterday.
    Worst case I raid tonight and will find out I guess. If it is, were gonna need a new goat for WAROP to scape. This is still a bug SE should fix more than a sign of how war is OP. 1 class being able to break a mechanic is a technical problem more than anything. I see it as just as dumb as a Pld being able to hallowed mechanics that are designed to give debuffs and force tank swaps cuz 0 damage prevents getting vuln debuffs for some silly reason (like titan EX, etc). That's not pld OP. That's just SE messing up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aana View Post
    Worst case I raid tonight and will find out I guess. If it is, were gonna need a new goat for WAROP to scape. This is still a bug SE should fix more than a sign of how war is OP. 1 class being able to break a mechanic is a technical problem more than anything. I see it as just as dumb as a Pld being able to hallowed mechanics that are designed to give debuffs and force tank swaps cuz 0 damage prevents getting vuln debuffs for some silly reason (like titan EX, etc). That's not pld OP. That's just SE messing up.
    Of course, it is not because of this glitch that WAR is OP. Actually we had a lot of problems in these new fights. Besides this skipping trick in OS5, there was also Byakko's instakill while grabbing a tank and Tuesday I experienced another one in OS5. After killing the Chimney I wasn't knocked out from there and couldn't go anywhere so I had to wait until I die because I didn't get any ghost for the passenger's mech.
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    FYI: Ghost cheese still works as of last night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aana View Post
    Ghost cheese


    Sorry couldn't help myself
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    https://www.fflogs.com/ Can easily be used to establish which tank is the best of dps as people are competitive and want to show others their best. For instance, look at sigmascape savage 2 and split it between all tank dps. Top currently is a 4.7k warrior followed by a 4.6k paladin. Highest dark knight is 4.3k. In sigmascape savage 3, all 3 tanks are parsing within 100 dps of each other. Highest dps tank for god kefka posted is currently a paladin. The margin between the tank classes is rather slim at this point, the classes have a lot different playstyle. For example, warrior is high spike, but rather low sustain. If the logs are looked at for dps, the tanks tend to be around 70% of the top dps' dps (if that makes sense). If you are second on the parse in sigmascape as a tank, and I am not trying to be rude, but I don't think its tanks being too strong.
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