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  1. #71
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aenarion View Post
    I read through this thread, it wasted 10min. of my life, which I will never get back.
    Isn't every thread like that on here ?
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  2. #72
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aenarion View Post
    I read through this thread, it wasted 10min. of my life, which I will never get back.
    That's why I never read more than the first and last page of threads which are not interesting..

    OnTopic:
    I'm not in favor of the OP's idea.
    Actually, I really don't like it at all.
    Leave repair system as it is. How are there even close to 30 people who agree with him?!
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    That's why I never read more than the first and last page of threads which are not interesting..

    OnTopic:
    I'm not in favor of the OP's idea.
    Actually, I really don't like it at all.
    Leave repair system as it is. How are there even close to 30 people who agree with him?!
    It may sound strange to you, but there are people out in the world that dont like to be hassled in something they will be paying for thats supposed to be for entertainment.
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    That's why I never read more than the first and last page of threads which are not interesting..

    OnTopic:
    I'm not in favor of the OP's idea.
    Actually, I really don't like it at all.
    Leave repair system as it is. How are there even close to 30 people who agree with him?!
    Mostly because the repair system as with anything inthis game is overly annoying and time consuming, just look at any other MMO out there and compare the repair systems.
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by atomicdeath View Post
    It may sound strange to you, but there are people out in the world that dont like to be hassled in something they will be paying for thats supposed to be for entertainment.
    If you call something so small and unimportant a hassle, you seem to be in favor of an "instant-game cleared!-button", too.
    Because, guess what, fighting is such a hassle too.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Mostly because the repair system as with anything inthis game is overly annoying and time consuming, just look at any other MMO out there and compare the repair systems.
    What's wrong with our repair system?
    It takes quite a while until stuff is broken, you can get cheap instant repair up to 99% from NPCs not just in towns but in every camp and we only have Dark Matter for player repairs, so not many materials are needed either.
    After 1.20 you won't even have to kneel down and go through the repair material selection screen anymore!
    It's neither time consuming nor more annoying than in any other MMORPG out there which even HAS a repair system at all o,O
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    Last edited by Atoli; 11-24-2011 at 08:01 AM.

  6. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atoli View Post
    If you call something so small and unimportant a hassle, you seem to be in favor of an "instant-game cleared!-button", too.
    Because, guess what, fighting is such a hassle too.
    You just dont get it dude
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  7. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Mostly because the repair system as with anything inthis game is overly annoying and time consuming, just look at any other MMO out there and compare the repair systems.
    Know what's funny about the whole "other MMO" comparisons? People leave out that other MMOs also have:

    "Weight" management, as in your character has a certain weight limit and some items are heavier than others, which means you have to literally pay attention to what TYPES of items you're carrying or farming as some will make you reach your limit quicker than others which is much more of a hassle than XIV's repair system.

    Very limited default inventory space that you usually have to expand through F2P cashshop purchases (not always)

    Stamina systems, i.e you need to "rest" in order to get better xp overall and so on. Other MMOs have their "hassle" systems, to some (for some reason) XIV's repair is seen as a hassle.
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  8. #78
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    I see repairs are being just fine... need to repair gear about every 2-3 days unless you die alot.

    And having to spend 30-40k to repair after 3 or so deaths is not where as strict as the lost 1hr of your progress every death that older mmos where or cases where you lost all your equipped gear and had to run back to your dead body to get it which sometimes took groups to help you do.

    So have to have some penatly. And minor repairs is much better then the other choices. No penalty is All reward and no Risk which is a complete fail policy in any game online, offline, or board game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by atomicdeath View Post
    Every game i have played that has had a repair system ended up getting rid of it because its un-popular. Give us something we want to spend gil on, not spending money on something we already got.
    1. WoW uses a durability (repair) system. They have for 7 years now, and it works just fine. No plans to remove it.

    2. They've already made repairs easier - a universal reagent, more repair NPCs, and repair NPCs fix up to 99%. Plus, in patch 1.20, repairs to accessories are coming, quicker animations, and removal of the redundant repair screen. How much more of a nerf do you want?

    3. What death penalty alternative would you suggest? This subject has been done to death. Exp loss is a harsh and unpopular option, one that Yoshi-P isn't a fan of, either. Many MMOs approach it as a money sink, they just disguise it in various ways. For example, Aion has you visit a soul healer, who 'repairs' your soul, for a pretty hefty amount of money. Die enough, and you can go broke, fast. FFXIV's repair system is not inconvenient, nor unfair, in comparison.

    I approve of the current system in place, and like how it continues to evolve. Please keep repairs.
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    Last edited by Rowyne; 11-24-2011 at 01:23 PM.

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    I don't care what WoW uses or any other MMO. Any mmo will be a time sink with that said I agree to remove it. Alot of people said that's being lazy and "new" mmo players are becoming brats in short words.
    Let's put it to a test shall we? If you die, you lose exp, which means you need to go and gain that buffer, or level you lost. Who is more lazy, the person who prefer to sit and repair items or the person who is fighting to gain experience point lost.
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