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  1. #61
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    RaijinSupreme's Avatar
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    Dynamo Malevolti
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    Sargatanas
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    There’s no edit button on mobile (how dumb lol). I didn’t mean complaints from you btw, just whoever is complaining lol
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miracle_Diva View Post
    What a bs.
    I own a small house, but later I want to upgrade it to bigger house, cuz I want more space for myself only. I feel like small house is just not enough for my ideas in decoration and I don't want to share it with FC, I want it to be mine. If you don't like your apartment irl and have money for a house you just find a nice place and voilà. Just cuz SE has very poor housing system doesn't mean that people should only have small personal houses.
    No one cares about your selfishness, honey.
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  3. #63
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    Burning Winter
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    Cerberus
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RaijinSupreme View Post
    No one cares about your selfishness, honey.
    Selfishness? Ok
    Better be selfish than watch half of those *FC* houses being empty for ages with no signs of life in it.
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  4. #64
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    Tae Sylphanas
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    Ultros
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by aeoncs View Post
    There are still countless Small Plots available at the moment, it's not like he won't still have his chance once individuals are allowed to purchase new plots. It's absolutely fair that FCs get dibs on Large and Medium houses.

    The whole housing system is still broken though, it's just not quite as bad as before.
    If FCs had dibs specifically on medium and large houses, the rules would have disallowed relocating a personal house to medium and large plots. The only thing that FCs have dibs on is getting a house in the first place.
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  5. #65
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    NessaWyvern's Avatar
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    Nessa Goddessly
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    Ravana
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    Conjurer Lv 96
    In my opinion, the entire community should have access to houses equally.
    FCs already have an advantage when it comes to owning houses, as FCs typically have several people who can pool their money together quickly.
    A lone person wanting a house is going to have a much harder time to get that same amount together, and they should be rewarded for it.
    FCs really didn't need to have priority.

    There's actually quite a few FCs out there that only have one active person in them, and many people share houses with friends, so I wouldn't call people wanting individual houses selfish.
    I share my medium house with two other people.
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    Last edited by NessaWyvern; 02-06-2018 at 09:59 PM.

  6. #66
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    Cinno Lerem
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    Lamia
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    FCs really didn't need to have priority.
    FC's = Large groups of people that need houses for functions and mechanics they provide that allow them to have basic functions and features of a free company.
    Private Housing = Decorations are pretty.

    Yeah sure, FC's don't need priority.
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  7. #67
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    Nessa Goddessly
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    Ravana
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinno View Post
    FC's = Large groups of people that need houses for functions and mechanics they provide that allow them to have basic functions and features of a free company.
    Private Housing = Decorations are pretty.

    Yeah sure, FC's don't need priority.
    FC's= Something a lot of people sell later when houses are sold out, to make money on it. Many FCs have very few members active. Can have a huge amount of income with airships, that individuals do not have access to.
    Private housing= Farming plots, convenient market place, summoning bell, hair stylist locations. Also can be a social hub of a few friends. Some are well used by the RP community.
    Besides, my "Private Kwehstate" adds much needed chocobo-ness to the community :P
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    Last edited by NessaWyvern; 02-06-2018 at 10:06 PM.

  8. #68
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    Tridus's Avatar
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cinno View Post
    FC's = Large groups of people that need houses for functions and mechanics they provide that allow them to have basic functions and features of a free company.
    Private Housing = Decorations are pretty.

    Yeah sure, FC's don't need priority.
    The only reason FCs need priority is because SE has screwed up housing so badly that thre's a scarcity problem while they also allowed a speculator market to run for years. This isn't reality, it's not hard to add more capacity to make this problem go away.

    Acting like it's the players fault for wanting access to a heavily advertised feature of a premium subscription game is beyond absurd. This is entirely SE's fault from begining to end, and they still haven't addressed it. With this latest round of changes they're just hoping enough people are mollified that the subset of those being shafted is small enough to ignore.
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    Survivor of Housing Savage 2018.
    Discord: Tridus#2642

  9. #69
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    Ranulf Squires
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I'm looking at the Ward list and there are lots of personal housing that got purchased this time around both in the old and new wards.

    I don't think there's gonna be anything available for the next release if this keeps up.

    Edit: I'm stupid, apparently relocating was allowed for some reasoan? So much for this being FC only.
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    Last edited by Ranulf; 02-06-2018 at 10:14 PM.

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  11. #70
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Cactuar
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Cinno View Post
    Let me adjust my statement: Within the current (bad) system the devs have designed, and without spending the necessary dev time and large chunk of the (presumably small) budget given to them by SE, this is the fairest thing they could have done.

    We have to be realistic, they have invested too much time and too much money in the Wards system to justify scrapping it and starting over, and starting over is the only way they can fix the mess they've created. So, without them starting over completely, making it so the people that actually need the space (FC's) can get it over the people that simply want the space, was a fair choice.
    Letting individuals who already have three houses relocate to better spots freely is "fair"? That's allowed right now, and in fact all this new space made it easier. While that's going on, tons of people are locked out entirely.

    It's in no way fair. Arguably, this system is the most unfair thing in the entire game, because it's the only part of it where people can be completely locked out and told to sod off while other people hoard multiple properties and they're told "sure, go ahead and upgrade to the beach front version, there's no competition now!"

    They did manage to fix it for free companies, kinda, except for all the individuals relocating to larger properties since those aren't locked to FC only. But to call it "fair" is abusive of the English language.

    Individual players can function just fine without a house. FC's meanwhile, are hindered by not having access to basics like gardening, airships/subs, company worshop as a whole, and the use of the aetherial wheel for fc buffs (which is helpful for smaller fc's that are lacking in credits.)
    Individual players can function just fine without lots of things, but none of them are rationed and restricted except housing. There's no other part of the game that says "oh you didn't get one during that mad scrable on a specific day, so too bad, now have some event rewards that you can't use because they only work on a housing exterior."

    For how much this game costs, this is amateur hour. It's in no way acceptable.
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    Survivor of Housing Savage 2018.
    Discord: Tridus#2642

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