Suggestions on how to improve the Glamour Dresser

[Krotoan]

The way I see it, they can improve it in stages (and maybe that is already their plan).

Here's how I would do it if I were them.


Stage 8: Item limit expanded to cover as many items as exist in the game.
reasoning:Gets it closer to a "glamour log"

Why did I not include a stage for taking things out of the dresser?
Well stage 2 would stop that from being needed (sorry to the people who did it in stage 1)

What's the point of having the item still if all you needed it for was glamour anyway?
If the system progresses as you've thought out, removing the item seems smarter in a system balance way than not since it would remove more inflated mat prices from dissed material recovery and conversion.


If the system is working correctly (as in ideally) there is no need to retain the original item as an item. I'm still at a loss as to why people continue to cling to the retrieval being necessary even when a hypothetical situation where the original is not needed anymore is presented.

[Squintina]

What's the point of having the item still if all you needed it for was glamour anyway?
If the system progresses as you've thought out, removing the item seems smarter in a system balance way than not since it would remove more inflated mat prices from dissed material recovery and conversion.


If the system is working correctly (as in ideally) there is no need to retain the original item as an item. I'm still at a loss as to why people continue to cling to the retrieval being necessary even when a hypothetical situation where the original is not needed anymore is presented.

To be honest I feel the same way you do. I only included that because of those people. In theory if it reached all the stages I put in, it wouldn't even matter because the only reason to want it back (the single glamouring) is fixed in the other stages I put in.

[Krotoan]

To be fair, there's enough cases of players still wanting to utilize the manual glamour options, either in conjunction with the Dresser plates, or in lieu of them. These are the players that want to "mix and match" their glamour approach, and so still "need" the items available to glamour manually.

The only way to reach a point where this need is reduced is to increase capacity and also expand access to the Dresser system beyond the Inn. Once there, maybe then some of these players can move away from their need for manual glamour items. But we're not there yet, so it's perfectly valid for them to be concerned about having access to those items for manual glamour.
Now, personally, I still don't quite get why they're set on glamouring that way, but that's just because I've never been one to extensively glamour, myself, and so it doesn't really seem like my place to question how any player wants to approach how they use any system.

Currently I see the need to get back an item. If what we have is the final product (oh god please no) then yes, we NEED to be able to retrieve items from the dresser. But if the capacity is expanded and the ability to glamour NPCs with plates is added, there is then no further reason to have the retrieval. I'm actually referring to another thread I had where even when I presented the perfected system as a whole, people still seemed to either misunderstand me, or persist in insisting they were "losing" the items.

I get why people would want to change one item at a time , or even just have the pieces available at the market board to "demo" an outfit without buying the expensive pieces. I don't think we should squash what they want to do, but I think that some compromises on one side or the other will have to be made so that constraints with the game itself can be circumvented for expanded functionality or storage.

To be honest I feel the same way you do. I only included that because of those people. In theory if it reached all the stages I put in, it wouldn't even matter because the only reason to want it back (the single glamouring) is fixed in the other stages I put in.

It's nice to hear that I'm not insane. I still cannot figure out what the attachment is to the items themselves for some people.

[Vstarstruck]

It's nice to hear that I'm not insane. I still cannot figure out what the attachment is to the items themselves for some people.

It is mainly because of the 200 limit, then others feel SE will break it n the future and fear losing tons of money in mog station items. Everyone I know is not putting anything in there that is high value. Like people putting in gear you can easily get back or gear that costs 10k gil or something that they still used frequently for glams. Also SE does not let you put in things in it like the wedding outfit in armor or the dresser, so people are very nervous of trusting it with gear of value.

Another reason is the 10 plates, it is easy to walk around in the real gear then dealing with the bad system.

If it was 400 items and 30-40 plates im sure you see it a lot less, but there prob still be a group of people not trusting it with mog station items