Fending Accessories Strength Gain

[Aana]

No matter how you slice it, tank best gear is bought and melded. No other jobs best gear is. Upgraded raid and tome gear is supposed to be the best by SEs admission. 20 ills of gear should be an upgrade but it isn't. This only applies to tanks. That's flatly not fair no matter how you slice it.

[Awha]

No matter how you slice it, tank best gear is bought and melded. No other jobs best gear is. Upgraded raid and tome gear is supposed to be the best by SEs admission. 20 ills of gear should be an upgrade but it isn't. This only applies to tanks. That's flatly not fair no matter how you slice it.

Seeking clarification is the crafted gear better due to the higher DPS return per item?

[Chrono_Rising]

Seeking clarification is the crafted gear better due to the higher DPS return per item?

Only the right hand side pieces. The 370 left hand side pieces are usually better than any alternative.

[Awha]

Only the right hand side pieces. The 370 left hand side pieces are usually better than any alternative.

So reason people are asking me to buy crafted right side is solely for the DPS gains? RIP why is SE trying so hard to fight the DPS meta.

[iridemyunicorneverynight]

So reason people are asking me to buy crafted right side is solely for the DPS gains? RIP why is SE trying so hard to fight the DPS meta.

To be absolutely frank, it isn't necessary for you to buy the right side for DPS gains or clearing purposes.

I wouldn't hassle with it if you're not trying to min/max.

It's expensive and almost not worth the effort.

Furthermore, you must remember that on your accessories for tanks you have a lack of STR, which means you'll be melding STR every time, shorting you out of other necessary stats. That is a huge shortcoming thanks to SE. They need to fix that.

If you choose to meld your right side with 350 ACC, it's because you want to manipulate stats and utilize something favorable to your build. It also frees up your rolls in progression towards other things you may need/want.

In gist, if you're not trying to min/max then just get regular accessories.

[Thela]

So reason people are asking me to buy crafted right side is solely for the DPS gains? RIP why is SE trying so hard to fight the DPS meta.

The differences are:
370 accessory: 1 additional strength, 18 additional vitality, 11 additional 1st secondary stat, 7 additional 2nd secondary stat
350 pentameded: 76 secondary stats to put where you want.

So subtracting the 11 & 7 additional secondary stats from the 370 you get 58 secondary stats vs 1 strength and 18 vitality. Clearly 58 secondary stats are worth more than 18 vitality and 1 strength, though the differences are minor.

[ArianeEwah]

To be absolutely frank, it isn't necessary for you to buy the right side for DPS gains or clearing purposes.

I wouldn't hassle with it if you're not trying to min/max.

It's expensive and almost not worth the effort.

Clearly 58 secondary stats are worth more than 18 vitality and 1 strength, though the differences are minor.

Basiclly this, if you aren't one of 1-5% of people trying to maximize their damage, pentamelded accessories aren't worth the gil and effort.

From my own experience, I can tell that the difference in non-crafted accessories vs pentamelded ones is even less than 5% damage PLUS the fact that party buffs are inevitable to even notice their full effect.

In 4.1, on my first char (pentamelded BiS) I did ~4300 DPS as WAR with potions + bufffood in O1s. On my second char without any crafted accessories, no bufffood nor potions ~4100 DPS on a 'failed'/'not optimized' speed kill.

In conclusion, even with potions, a 'successful' speed kill AND pentamelded accessories, my first char might have beaten my second char by not even 5%. Take away all buffs, such as potions, and the difference might be 1 or 2% at max.

If you have 5+ mil gil to spare, sure go for pentamelded ACC. If not, don't bother with it!

[Awha]

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That is the issue I personally have though and SE I do not understand why SE is so unwilling to just come to terms with the DPS meta that the community clearly wants. I get that it is not needed nevertheless, the clear divided between the developers and the communities view for how tanks should be geared and or played needs to reconciled and a compromise should be made.

If pentameld was not BiS and something that was simply meant to give people a slight edge at the start. I would understand. +1 in STR from 340 to 350/360 Gear is silly.

A compromise was made. Tanks effectively get free Strength on their accessories, and this was only given because, from level 60 to level 100, they'd probably still be wearing i270 Slaying otherwise.

Sorry English is not my native tongue, maybe compromise is the wrong word. I thought compromise meant when two or more parties find a solution that they both can agree with. Not sure what word one would use for to describe that, but this whole one sided dialog between the tanking community and the devs really needs to stop. Just seems as if SE likes to deal with bandaid fixes instead of just fixing the core issue.