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  1. #111
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    I understand why they don't want to take houses away from people who already have six, but when we get yet another seasonal event with yet another housing item reward that I can't use because SE has flat out forbidden me from buying a house.... yeah. It's pretty hard not to see a giant middle finger in all of that.
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    I am okay with this change. It kills off house flipping and prevents new land barons from arising and will slowly filter houses back into the population as multi-plot owners forget to enter some of their dwellings or when one of them takes a hiatus. I still think large scale instanced housing would have been a better way to go but I will take this.
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  3. #113
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    What do you tell the person who has paid extra for another character slot so his friend or family member can play and they've also got a house. They can't pick and choose whom will loose the extra house and before you know it no-one will have an extra house, but it isn't happening today. How would you feel if they just took months of playtime and millions of gil and say nope that never happened. The solution they implemented was the right thing to do, and the right thing doesn't always please everyone nor does it have to.

    Edit: To clarify, "the right thing to do" refers to not punishing players who obtained multiple houses while in compliance with the license agreement.
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  4. #114
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcellus_Cassius View Post
    What do you tell the person who has paid extra for another character slot so his friend or family member can play and they've also got a house.
    I would tell them account sharing is against the ToS.

    I would also hope had they chosen to take homes full reembursements would be had.
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  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcellus_Cassius View Post
    This thread is childish at best. What do you tell the person who has paid extra for another character slot so his friend or family member can play and they've also got a house. They can't pick and choose whom will loose the extra house and before you know it no-one will have an extra house, but it isn't happening today. How would you feel if they just took months of playtime and millions of gil and say nope that shit never happened try again. The solution they implemented was the right thing to do, and the right thing doesn't always please everyone nor does it have to.
    The right thing to do would be to make the only hurdle to housing being amassing the gil to buy one. What we have now is another band-aid stuck on top of a stack of old band-aids.

    They expanded the number of wards again and are restricting housing from alts now. Whoopty doo.

    The alt restriction shouldn't exist and the number of wards should expand and contract to meet demand.
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  6. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcellus_Cassius View Post
    The solution they implemented was the right thing to do
    No, it was yet another half-assed method to try and deal with housing that doesn't solve the fundamental problem of SE being too cheap to put the capacity in place to provide every subscriber with the ability to buy a house.

    and the right thing doesn't always please everyone nor does it have to.
    "You should be able to get a house" is not a magical unicorn that can't be achieved because it's beyond the realm of mortal technology. It's an entirely solvable problem they don't want to put the effort into solving. When they advertise a game feature prominently and then say "oh, but not for you", you can expect those people to be dissatisfied.

    This is SE's biggest ongoing failure. They should apply the same thing to other areas of the game, like endgame raids. Only let half the playerbase that wants to do that in on a given week, because it doesn't have to please everybody, right? I'm sure that'll go swimmingly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalwrath View Post
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    Yes I agree players are evil/abusers who will try anything they can within the rules and maybe redefine the rules.

    It is SE job to protect us from those players within the system. I can't elect a new government to protect me, if you trust them. I can't shame them on the forums, like in the old allakazam days. The server can't punish them like we did in the old days. Cross server play means they can own multiple houses and never play with another player from that server. How is it not their fault for not protecting and governing the player base?
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  8. #118
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalwrath View Post
    Set at the right rate it could potentially cripple house hoarders and force them to relinquish some of their property due to upkeep.
    This could also hurt people who only have the one house. I don't think this is a good idea.
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  9. #119
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    No, it was yet another half-assed method to try and deal with housing that doesn't solve the fundamental problem of SE being too cheap to put the capacity in place to provide every subscriber with the ability to buy a house.



    "You should be able to get a house" is not a magical unicorn that can't be achieved because it's beyond the realm of mortal technology.

    This is SE's biggest ongoing failure. They should apply the same thing to other areas of the game, like endgame raids. Only let half the playerbase that wants to do that in on a given week, because it doesn't have to please everybody, right? I'm sure that'll go swimmingly.
    That is not what I meant, when I say the right thing to do I mean not punishing players by removing the houses or FCs they gathered while being in compliance to the license. That's the right thing to do. I'm all for more server capacity and being able to house everyone's account and their alts.
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  10. #120
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    Quote Originally Posted by Keridwyn View Post
    I would tell them account sharing is against the ToS.

    I would also hope had they chosen to take homes full reembursements would be had.
    That is just one example, the point was they have no way of telling the user's intentions for their purchases and those purchases were made while in full compliance with the license agreement.
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