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    In another Sad but REALLY whiny "True Monk" thread

    So you are using theorycraft from BEFORE the patch even droped as facts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scremin View Post
    In another Sad but REALLY whiny "True Monk" thread

    So you are using theorycraft from BEFORE the patch even droped as facts?
    If you have alternative openers and uses where RoW is not a dps loss, please post them. Discussions are still being had post-patch and it appears the opener will not change at all. As I mentioned, I've run Monk post patch and cannot find a use for it.
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    Last edited by Rockette; 01-31-2018 at 01:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scremin View Post
    In another Sad but REALLY whiny "True Monk" thread

    So you are using theorycraft from BEFORE the patch even droped as facts?
    Kinda curious why the pre patch argument is used here. The potencies nor mechanics were changed, the only thing it does is get a GL stack when using RoW. And a prerequisite for RoW is to: Be in FoW (loses 5% from FoFire) and use wind tackle at half the potency.

    And yes I have used it after the patch and, outside of quirky, niche applications (and FoW being a DPS loss) RoW is just an alternative way to regain stacks if you for some odd reason have PB on CD and lost them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahrze View Post
    Kinda curious why the pre patch argument is used here. The potencies nor mechanics were changed, the only thing it does is get a GL stack when using RoW. And a prerequisite for RoW is to: Be in FoW (loses 5% from FoFire) and use wind tackle at half the potency.

    And yes I have used it after the patch and, outside of quirky, niche applications (and FoW being a DPS loss) RoW is just an alternative way to regain stacks if you for some odd reason have PB on CD and lost them.
    The pre-patch argument is valid simply because there's a big difference between theorycrafting and actual experiment, even if the paramaters doesn't change much, it is STILL a change, one that theorycrafting alone cannot point out without the actual experimentation. I'm not saying it's proven now or no that the prepatch theory changed, but there are already rough drafts of another openner that increase dps even if its for a bit, SO its not "niche aplications" like you claimed, and like that reddit theory claimed, and my original post was just a trolling because, because I'm REALLY sick of drama queens atitude like OP one in the thread title, but then again, this whole forum is one big bad drama sometimes.
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