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    In another Sad but True Monk thread - Riddle of Wind remains Useless

    It is still better to form shift to coerul stance and fire tackle - demolish back to where ever you're going.

    If anyone has actually found a use for RoW, I'd love to discuss.
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    Did you actually theorycrafted that or just speaking with no evidence?

    From my point of view this will change at least the monk openner in 4.2 . You don't need to be smart to see that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Inuk9 View Post
    Did you actually theorycrafted that or just speaking with no evidence?

    From my point of view this will change at least the monk openner in 4.2 . You don't need to be smart to see that.
    The opener hasn't changed. Here is a recent thread with that discussion.

    As for my own personal "evidence", I ran o5s before the maint. I could find no use for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rockette View Post
    The opener hasn't changed. Here is a recent thread with that discussion.

    As for my own personal "evidence", I ran o5s before the maint. I could find no use for it.
    That's really odd I though gaining a GS stack for free with a OGCD would definitelly change something in the openner.
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    In another Sad but REALLY whiny "True Monk" thread

    So you are using theorycraft from BEFORE the patch even droped as facts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scremin View Post
    In another Sad but REALLY whiny "True Monk" thread

    So you are using theorycraft from BEFORE the patch even droped as facts?
    If you have alternative openers and uses where RoW is not a dps loss, please post them. Discussions are still being had post-patch and it appears the opener will not change at all. As I mentioned, I've run Monk post patch and cannot find a use for it.
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    Last edited by Rockette; 01-31-2018 at 01:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inuk9 View Post
    That's really odd I though gaining a GS stack for free with a OGCD would definitelly change something in the openner.
    Yeah I thought so too, but looking back on it I can see more value in keeping FT for our big LOL moment (which got 5% LOLLER with the Brohood change).
    Quote Originally Posted by Scremin View Post
    In another Sad but REALLY whiny "True Monk" thread

    So you are using theorycraft from BEFORE the patch even droped as facts?
    We knew the patch notes like, a week ago. To theorycraft you just need to know what's changing, it doesn't need to have happened already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scremin View Post
    In another Sad but REALLY whiny "True Monk" thread

    So you are using theorycraft from BEFORE the patch even droped as facts?
    Kinda curious why the pre patch argument is used here. The potencies nor mechanics were changed, the only thing it does is get a GL stack when using RoW. And a prerequisite for RoW is to: Be in FoW (loses 5% from FoFire) and use wind tackle at half the potency.

    And yes I have used it after the patch and, outside of quirky, niche applications (and FoW being a DPS loss) RoW is just an alternative way to regain stacks if you for some odd reason have PB on CD and lost them.
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    RoW is useful in dungeons if, like me, you don't like spamming form shift constantly between pulls.

    For primals and raids, will sit back and see what happens.
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    The only time I saw RoW being of use is when PB is on cooldown and waiting for the boss to reappear or get back to as a gap closer. Form Shift, Demolish/Snap Punch, RoW, Combo for 3 stacks. I was also curious if it would make Tornado Kick anymore relevant since you could get back up to 2 GL stacks within a GCD window. Again this was just a thought and Didn't know if it was worthwhile.
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