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  1. #81
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    Bongaboi's Avatar
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    Kahori Harukawa
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    Once upon a time in Mateus, there were two ladies who happened upon the server and found it quite empty. After spending an inordinate amount of time and effort, these ladies bought a lot of houses together. Of course, with the world being hardly populated, no one complained.

    Time passed...

    Mateus became populated and now these same ladies were being swarmed by a lynchmob, accused of greed and monopoly.

    Who's at fault here?
    The two ladies.
    (4)

    "But please. Call me Bae."
    The White Witch of Okami Rojo.

  2. #82
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    Rinuko's Avatar
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    Lele Inoch
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    Zodiark
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    Black Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Bongaboi View Post
    The two ladies.
    Why? They did nothing wrong and deserve no hate for it.
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  3. #83
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    Metalwrath's Avatar
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    Rhulk Roegan
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    Raiden
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Once again blaming SE for players being greedy is pathetic.
    But it seems to sum up the current generation of gamers attitude towards trying to throw the blame for ones selfish actions always as someone elses fault.
    And lets be honest here.Considering the amount of players that trade spammed other players to secure more than one property a lot of them did infact break TOS by harrasing players to get the properties.
    And no im not jealous of people owning more than one house.To be honest ive never had any interest in buying a house.
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  4. #84
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    Caddlery Sundar
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    Diabolos
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    Scholar Lv 64
    Why can't they take them back? Consider it housing "balancing."

    They can take away, change, nerd, etc. my abilities in the name of "balancing the game." Well, the housing is in game. Balance it.
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  5. #85
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    Paladinleeds's Avatar
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    Nomfur Farredzasyn
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    Omega
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Metalwrath View Post
    Once again blaming SE for players being greedy is pathetic.
    With how long-term it has been a problem for and SE only now taking a stance, SE are not completely free of blame. Yes, players shouldn't have been greedy I can agree with that. But aside from those who tradespammed/harassed other players, what they did was within the law of the game, so they aren't at complete fault. SE should at least take some of the blame.

    Disclaimer: I have 1 personal, 1 FC house (which I inherited the FC off the leader who went inactive, seemingly quit), and 1 apartment. Out of all my characters.
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    White Mage ~ Scholar ~ Paladin
    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

  6. #86
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    Bloodb's Avatar
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    Humble Heart
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Lenaru View Post
    I don't see why to take the houses from them, they earn it already and some from a time when it was way more expensive a plot and harder to get gil.
    All Players with 2+ homes bought them 10 minutes after the servers came up when 2.2 launched.
    5,000,000 gil at the time of 2.2 is the equivalent of 500,000,000 gil now with inflation.
    To strip something that huge from long time veteran players is scary and wrong.



    Forgot a second character is needed for more than 1 home. You have to be level 50 and max rank grand company. That's a big time investment.
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  7. #87
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    Metalwrath's Avatar
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    Rhulk Roegan
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    To be honest ive never said in this thread that they shouldnt have freed up more houses and put limits earlier.
    My point all along has always been though that the current issue of people owning multiple houses wasnt created by SE.A player has to go and decide to do that.
    Just because you're able to take advantage of something knowing it will be to the detriment of others doesn't mean you should.Not to mention im sure plenty were aware that those actions would contribute to players buying gil to purchase property.
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  8. #88
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    Claviusnex's Avatar
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    Alinhbo Rhiki
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    Adamantoise
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Metalwrath View Post
    Once again blaming SE for players being greedy is pathetic.
    But it seems to sum up the current generation of gamers attitude towards trying to throw the blame for ones selfish actions always as someone elses fault.
    And lets be honest here.Considering the amount of players that trade spammed other players to secure more than one property a lot of them did infact break TOS by harrasing players to get the properties.
    And no im not jealous of people owning more than one house.To be honest ive never had any interest in buying a house.
    Nobody was being greedy. People with multiple houses are playing the way SE intended. SE considers alts to be unique characters so buying a house for an alt is the expectation. Even if all of the multiple houses were returned they wouldn't put a dent in the housing demand. You really are wasting your energy by misdirecting your ire at players. Players only do what they are allowed and, in most cases, expected to do. It is SE who establishes these rules and in the case of housing they provided an extremely flawed system. They then made matters worse by continuing to add a few more plots piecemeal instead of acknowledging they screwed up and developing a usable housing system. Wards will never be able to fully meet player demand for housing. Instead of sour grapes and an "If I can't get it nobody should" attitude maybe you should be asking SE what they are going to do to ensure every player who wants a house or houses gets one.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kegani View Post
    Why can't they take them back? Consider it housing "balancing."
    How do you handle Mog Station items the players paid real money for? They might not have the ability to save them or to even use them again. The only fair thing would to be for SE refund their money but we know that would never happen. SE picked a decent path, multiple house owners cannot buy more and over time many will be recovered via attrition.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bloodb View Post
    The new change NEEDS to be 1 per Physical actually real life address.

    As long as 1 person is allowed to buy and pay for more than 1 subscription/account you can bet people will have 2 accounts to own multiple housing.

    The new restriction is too easy to bypass that way. Hopefully enough plots/wards for everyone will make all the problems go away, and everyone happy.
    If someone is willing to pay for a second account they have a right to access all content.
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    Last edited by Claviusnex; 01-30-2018 at 10:36 PM.

  9. #89
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    Jijifli Kokofli
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 55
    Quote Originally Posted by Kegani View Post
    Why can't they take them back?
    Because whether or not you like it, they paid to get the housing. Does it suck? Yes. Should they lose something that they had to invest in though over it? No.

    Feel like I'll be responded to poorly over it, but let's pretend use our Anima real quick from Heavensward. Imagine you'd been doing anima when it was current, staying up to date, but you're doing it with 3 weapons, the 3 jobs you enjoy. Square decides that at 3.4, well later in your investment, that a player shouldn't realistically have more than 1 anima weapon, then strips away whichever ones you didn't do first. Would you find that fair? The gil, tomes, and time you spent for them, just stripped away for the sake of "Balancing," as you wanna call it?

    The difference between balancing a job and the house is the jobs aren't locked behind an item/gil sink. They aren't being removed either, just tweaked. A house needs resources. A house needs you to throw gil at it, while also needing you to advance in both story and GC rank (Which some people make it to 70 without hitting the rank.) Technically, they worked for that house. You didn't work to unlock Arcanist.
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  10. #90
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    Humble Heart
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    Cactuar
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    Red Mage Lv 80
    The new change NEEDS to be 1 per Physical actually real life address.

    As long as 1 person is allowed to buy and pay for more than 1 subscription/account you can bet people will have 2 accounts to own multiple housing.

    The new restriction is too easy to bypass that way. Hopefully enough plots/wards for everyone will make all the problems go away, and everyone happy.
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