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    Quote Originally Posted by Quor View Post
    The upcoming WAR nerfs have brought out the usual boilerplate from the peanut galleries;
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    You're right, it is. And I too am tired of the "dumbing down" that has occurred. Yet here we are, with the WAR changes coming, and more people praising them on the tank forums than not, calling it an increase in DPS because of "gained Fell Cleaves" while completely ignoring a loss in AA DPS and the fact that the entire class is now a faceroll when it comes to damage.
    Quor, I see your argument failed to gain traction in the tank subforum so you are trying to get this misinformation to spread here. Let me summarize the responses on the tank subforum here: The initial Bok analysis is deeply flawed, he produced his 5% nerf by only taking into account the nerfs in his math, 5% is the effect of the change without including the new burst window and additional Fell Cleaves from not spending gauge and being able to take advantage of the infuriate trait.

    Multiple people have worked on multiple spreadsheets and they all come to same conclusions, despite the net loss on the main combos and autoattacks and even the oGCD's the new warrior burst window and additional gauge should theoretically increase warrior dps above what warriors are currently pulling independent of ilvl. This may not be the playstyle people want, but it is likely not a nerf in damage, infact it is likely a buff or at least neutral.

    If you don't believe the math and excel spreadsheets, which, despite what you seem to think, do take into account warrior's self buffing, raid buffs, and the reduction of the eye buff on things like autoattacks, then I suggest waiting for the content to release so that you can put it into practice rather than spreading misinformation here and trying to nuke enrage timers. And by the way, getting rid of enrage timers will do nothing to the dps meta of this game because believe it or not people actually enjoy speed running content for a reason, and its not for meeting enrage timers at this point. Who wants to run dungeons for 60 minutes? Who wants to kill neo ex death with autoattacks and be in the instance for 24 hours?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrono_Rising View Post
    Quor, I see your argument failed to gain traction in the tank subforum so you are trying to get this misinformation to spread here. Let me summarize the responses on the tank subforum here: The initial Bok analysis is deeply flawed, he produced his 5% nerf by only taking into account the nerfs in his math, 5% is the effect of the change without including the new burst window and additional Fell Cleaves from not spending gauge and being able to take advantage of the infuriate trait.

    Multiple people have worked on multiple spreadsheets and they all come to same conclusions, despite the net loss on the main combos and autoattacks and even the oGCD's the new warrior burst window and additional gauge should theoretically increase warrior dps above what warriors are currently pulling independent of ilvl. This may not be the playstyle people want, but it is likely not a nerf in damage, infact it is likely a buff or at least neutral.

    If you don't believe the math and excel spreadsheets, which, despite what you seem to think, do take into account warrior's self buffing, raid buffs, and the reduction of the eye buff on things like autoattacks, then I suggest waiting for the content to release so that you can put it into practice rather than spreading misinformation here and trying to nuke enrage timers. And by the way, getting rid of enrage timers will do nothing to the dps meta of this game because believe it or not people actually enjoy speed running content for a reason, and its not for meeting enrage timers at this point. Who wants to run dungeons for 60 minutes? Who wants to kill neo ex death with autoattacks and be in the instance for 24 hours?
    apology for poor english

    where were you when OP was kill?

    i was sat at Kugane eating cheeseburger when Yoshi-P call

    'op is die'

    'no'

    and you?????????????????????????????????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ophelie View Post
    apology for poor english

    where were you when OP was kill?

    i was sat at Kugane eating cheeseburger when Yoshi-P call

    'op is die'

    'no'

    and you?????????????????????????????????
    I don't understand lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrono_Rising View Post
    I don't understand lol.
    You called OP out and murdered them with words.

    Also memes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrono_Rising View Post
    I don't understand lol.
    That's an old meme he's saying because you annihilated OP. I didn't know murder was allowed on the forums GJ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soupa View Post
    That's an old meme he's saying because you annihilated OP. I didn't know murder was allowed on the forums GJ.
    Ah I see, I miss these things sadly lol.
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