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  1. #11
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    Solarianna's Avatar
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    Solarianna Farron
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    I can certainly sympathize with the situation that originated this change.
    But said change, for me, will simply mean that I'll never set foot there again.

    I know they said they'll increase the reward to match the increase in time, but, to me, unless the reward is a guaranteed mount that I don't have, a piece of gear of 4.2 ilvl ( e.g. >340 ilvl), a crystal for a NON-COMBAT Materia VI, or a guaranteed insta-cap of the new tomestones for the week, it's not gonna be worth the obnoxious amount of time investment forced upon me. And time from cutscenes that I don't want to watch anymore, no less.

    And I doubt they'll up the ante on the rewards that far for a roulette. And to be honest, they shouldn't.
    Which means, to me, it's a roulette that simply, as of right now, ceased to exist.
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  2. #12
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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Takes about 30 minutes for a dps to queue for main roulette, it's going to take a lot longer now. Most of my friends and myself probably won't queue for it anymore. This isn't going to help those trying to complete main story very much.
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  3. #13
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    Lace Valeria
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles_Maelstrom View Post
    The massive reduced people queue for MSQ roulette will eventually make them revert, after the complaint threads start about new players not being able to advance the story due to not finding groups or insane queue times of several hours.
    I hope you're right. I want you to be right, believe me. but. . . (Look at the date, number of pages, and the current state of the content.)
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miles_Maelstrom View Post
    Give it a patch. The massive reduced people queue for MSQ roulette will eventually make them revert [...]
    This pretty much.

    Though I'd say give them a couple patches - Knowing them, they'll first try to increase the rewards further or make a special achievement for it or something. It's a recurring theme in their design, bad design and decisions get compensated with rewards.
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  5. #15
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    I'll repeat what I said from a similar thread:

    While I appreciate the intent of the cutscenes in CM and Prae not being skippable for in the event of a new person in the party, the rewards aren't really worth it in the long run.

    I think if the gil reward in the daily bonus and Adventurer in Need bonus is highly substantial enough, I'll give it a try more often to help the newbies in need. (I'll take some extra gil for glams and housing stuff.)

    I mean ARF and the 24-man raids give quite a bit of poetics in less than 30 minutes, even when there are no new people there.
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  6. #16
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    Adore Mi
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    People can be pissed all they want, but they have no one else to blame but themselves.
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    People can be pissed all they want, but they have no one else to blame but themselves.
    Yup. PvE toxic. Force cutscenes. And ban chat. Because my feels. And my first time immersion.

    Also nerf Byakko Ex. It's too hard. /s
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  8. #18
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    Miles Maelstrom
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    Quote Originally Posted by RokkuEkkusu View Post
    I'll repeat what I said from a similar thread:

    While I appreciate the intent of the cutscenes in CM and Prae not being skippable for in the event of a new person in the party, the rewards aren't really worth it in the long run.

    I think if the gil reward in the daily bonus and Adventurer in Need bonus is highly substantial enough, I'll give it a try more often to help the newbies in need.

    I mean ARF and the 24-man raids give quite a bit of poetics in less than 30 minutes, even when there are no new people there.
    The problem this will see a big drop. I might still do MSQ roulette, but my priorities will change.

    Right now when working though roulettes I go: Alliance>MSQ>Leveling>50/60>Trial

    After Tuesday: Alliance>Leveling>50/60>Trial>MSQ

    Meaning, I won't get to it very often. So even those that aren't completely staying out of it we'll see a drastic drop in people doing MSQ Roulette.
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  9. #19
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    In before they require you to do MSQ roulette once a day for the new relics... Gonna need more than tomes and gil for folks to queue it up now...
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  10. #20
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    Lho Polaali
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    Moogle
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    People can be pissed all they want, but they have no one else to blame but themselves.
    If the content is badly designed, it's badly designed and people will do what they can to go around it. Incorporating cutscenes into content 7/8 people in the party have seen more than once, more likely, was a bad move from the get-go. And SE themselves have learned their lesson, I mean, in Keeper of the Lake the cutscene would trigger instantly after you beat the final boss so people would leave without rolling on loot or getting your comm, but you don't get that anymore. Cutscene only triggers when you click the Exit and can watch the cutscene at your leisure.
    With this change it's true people won't rush through that content anymore, but that's mostly because they won't queue for it anymore. It'll become content filled only from Mentor roulette and the amount of people insta-bailing on that will only contribute to the Mentors' already so-so reputation. Not that anyone can blame them in this case, eating the penalty really will be faster than completing that content.

    Quote Originally Posted by polyhedral View Post
    In before they require you to do MSQ roulette once a day for the new relics... Gonna need more than tomes and gil for folks to queue it up now...
    Why would you say such a hateful and likely thing
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