The Castrum Meridianum/Praetorium Change

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

I "support" this change. If people weren't so toxic toward newbies and leaving them behind all the time, they wouldn't need to make cutscenes unskippable.

All that rushing through ruined the experience for too many new players. This change should've happened sooner.

Obviously, no, I don't think this way. But I wasn't going to pass up the opportunity to illustrate the parallel between this unwanted change, and one of the most controversial and terrible changes in PvP that often gets white knighted by non-PvPers (generally).

Now you know what it's like when SE decides to think for you.

[Fynlar]

Player toxicity sucks and all, but there really no denying that this wasn't the proper way to handle it.

[Tint]

so i can just sit in my cutscene, not clicking through the text and hold the whole party hostage?

[Ilyrian]

I "support" this change. If people weren't so toxic toward newbies and leaving them behind all the time, they wouldn't need to make cutscenes unskippable.

All that rushing through ruined the experience for too many new players. This change should've happened sooner.

Obviously, no, I don't think this way. But I wasn't going to pass up the opportunity to illustrate the parallel between this unwanted change, and one of the most controversial and terrible changes in PvP that often gets white knighted by non-PvPers (generally).

Now you know what it's like when SE decides to think for you.

What you have illustrated is how easy it is for the player base to turn on each other. Not cool.

[Lilseph]

So the roulette could die sooner?

Edit: Ah, that edit.

[Fynlar]

so i can just sit in my cutscene, not clicking through the text and hold the whole party hostage?

No, they'll probably just vote kick you as soon as they notice you're taking 30 seconds longer to view the cutscenes than the 7 other people who are just spam clicking through it.

Assuming, of course, you even can get 7 other people anymore to do this roulette. Seems like a whole lot of people won't be bothering anymore. I didn't do it very much before, but now I certainly never will be.

I actually have no problem whatsoever with people that view cutscenes in this dungeon. I just don't appreciate having it forced on me.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

Please read carefully, guys.

I don't like this either. I was, however, sarcastically mimicking some of the comments made when they decided the best way to deal with a few nasty players in the Feast was to prevent anyone from saying anything. This change parallels it. People - not everyone - but people would rush and leave new guys behind, ruining the experience for them. No, it's not fair, and sure they could've run it with their FC, or watched cutscenes later in an inn, or sure, the ones that weren't there for the first time could be nice and wait, but no. SE decided "everyone waits for the new guy".

Doesn't bother me much as I always did wait for them anyways (if only so they know where to go), and I don't go out of my way to run MSQ roulette as is. But I think this was just as bad a change as the Feast chat restriction. It was important however to point out the similarity.

[Lilseph]

Honestly, I personally think it always has been SE the one at fault with this. Both Castrum and Prae have a terrible design, putting so many CS in an 8-man instance. You can't blame players for rushing it and leaving players behind, as it didn't affect the outcome since there's no need for 8 people on any of these encounters. Bad design is bad.

[ThirdChild_ZKI]

What you have illustrated is how easy it is for the player base to turn on each other. Not cool.

You're right. It's not cool. Neither change is.

I do hope however it provokes some thought on both matters and brings the PvEers and PvPers a little closer in understanding each other's feelings when it comes to forced, negative changes.

[Miles_Maelstrom]

Give it a patch. The massive reduced people queue for MSQ roulette will eventually make them revert, after the complaint threads start about new players not being able to advance the story due to not finding groups or insane queue times of several hours.