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    Chronons's Avatar
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    Ulyssi Ironside
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 70
    *shrugs* Not enough evidence to know whether it was warranted or not.

    Regardless, its always sad to see people go. Hope you give the game another chance in the future.
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    Rakiria's Avatar
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    E'gao Tia
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    Louisoix
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Chronons View Post
    *shrugs* Not enough evidence to know whether it was warranted or not.
    The only thing warranting hurling abuse towards a new player is them being generally rude and abusive towards the other players. In any other case you have to be patient with new players and should offer them help with any mistakes they make, as they have to learn from some place. And attacking them over their mistakes without explaining why they should do it differently doesn't count as help.
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    Kristyana Alashir
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    Famfrit
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Chronons View Post
    *shrugs* Not enough evidence to know whether it was warranted or not.

    Regardless, its always sad to see people go. Hope you give the game another chance in the future.
    Abuse is never warranted, if someone isnt performing you can tell them without being rude.

    Last night, I had a player who just very recently returned, we were doing the Great Library of Gubal and the tank pulled about the whole dungeon up to the first boss, he died blamed the healer and then left. Healer asked if he was that bad, I responded no, some people just cant STAND the dungeon taking 3 minutes more than usual, we got a new tank and it was a smooth run from then on. Point is, theres absolutely no reason to be an ***.
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    Sylbritt Muscadet
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    Cerberus
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    Archer Lv 89
    Quote Originally Posted by Chronons View Post
    *shrugs* Not enough evidence to know whether it was warranted or not.
    Abuse is never warranted. It is also against the ToS and should be reported.

    OP - Healing can be tough. You need a thick skin if you are going to level a healer using DF.
    I have been called out for dpsing (nobody died, tank just said it was my job to heal) and then I've been called out for not dpsing enough. You simply can't please everyone, and if things go pear-shaped, you're usually the first person to be blamed.

    My advice would be to find an active, helpful FC and run dungeons/level with them. I'd also switch back to WHM as it's a simpler class than AST.
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Solarra View Post
    Abuse is never warranted. It is also against the ToS and should be reported.
    While I wholeheartdly agree with this, we also dont know what excatly happend - what was said to the OP in which situtaion etc.

    I mention that because I've been called "rude" for giving advice before - advice that I gave in a very polite, neutral but also short matter ("Tankname, can you use more flash, please" - stuff like that. Not sugar coating that someone needs to up their game, not writing a novel with a lot of apologies for even pointing out a mistake and then begging for someone to do something they should have done in the first place. Some people consider this harrassment already, I assume...)

    I'm not saying that harrassment/abuse isnt happening - people can be very rude, no denying that. But without the actual context we can hardly tell what happend here and how much was actual verbal abuse - and how much was some sort of advice that even though it might have been put in a short sentence without a lot of "please, sorry and thank you" but was recived as harrassment by the OP - which would be sad aswell but at least as an easy counter-meassure: Practice and learning the class beforehand and letting your party know that you're still getting used to it.

    OP has both AST and WHM leveled around/above 50 - thats an amount of playtime after which people can rightfully expect a person to have grasped the basics of their class. We dont know wether or not OP has - I'm not even talking about DPSing or using AST-cards.
    I'm talking about not applying regen pre-pull, picking a stance as AST, knowing when to use cure1/2/3.
    I'm talking about sticking to the group, not standing around or running off in different directions.
    I'm talking about communicating - letting your party know you're still learning and asking for pointers and being open for those. (Yes, yes, everyone can see the sprout icon and assume that someone is still learning when seeing that but its really, really nice when that person signals "Hey, I also would like to learn" - ...personally I've also been yelled at for giving to advice to a sprout that was an alt from someone... either way, better to just speak up real quick)

    We all had to learn at one point or another - so I wholeheartly agree with the suggestion to look for a friendly FC/LS/friends who will be patient enough to teach someone the ropes.
    But also to keep an open mind... you dont have to be a doormat for others, but you're also doing no one a favour queuing for higher level dungeons when you didnt quite understand how to play your class yet. Again... in regards to OP I can only speculate there...

    Seeing how Odin and Ragnarok share a datacenter, I wouldnt mind joining OP for a few dungeons and give my honest, but hopefully polite feedback and advice on how to improve - should OP come back to read all of this... hit me up, if you want!
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