And that why Y'shtola is me favorite character !

[Terrific]

This was the best part from end story. God i love you Y'shtola ! 100% for me Lyse is the worst character.

[Coratanni]

Y'shtola is true Waifu. SB just wasnt the same for me.

[-Teria-]

I must agree with you OP.

Lyse truly is terrible.

[Antonio_Xul]

I must agree with you OP.

Lyse truly is terrible.

Yeah Lyse was better as part of the comedy relief duo of Papalymo & Yda where she would say some dumb things and he'd insult her. They were used sparingly, so they didn't wore out their welcome.

[Fredco191]

Yeah Lyse was better as part of the comedy relief duo of Papalymo & Yda where she would say some dumb things and he'd insult her. They were used sparingly, so they didn't wore out their welcome.

I miss Papalymo...

[Maero]

I miss Papalymo...

As do i he was my fav out of all of them

[Theodric]

Yeah, Y'shtola is definitely one of the more interesting Scions. It's a shame that she had to sit out in favour of Lyse.

Hopefully once Stormblood is over with we won't have to see Lyse ever again outside of rare appearances. I'd like to see more of Thancred, too.

[Balipu]

Yeah, Y'shtola is definitely one of the more interesting Scions. It's a shame that she had to sit out in favour of Lyse.

Hopefully once Stormblood is over with we won't have to see Lyse ever again outside of rare appearances. I'd like to see more of Thancred, too.

If I could choose I'd rather see Lyse developed into a likable character. I mean it worked with freakin Alphinaud who was an annoying twerp in ARR but ended up being one of the best Scions with his development over HW.

Thancred? I don't know. I really like they guy but he easily has the most screentime. ARR was mainly about him, in HW he was the second Scion to return and even in SB he had more to do than Y'shtola. How about more Alisaie, Yugiri, or perhaps even a new person?

[Theodric]

-snip-

It worked with Alphinaud since there were very real consequences that he needed to face as a result of his actions. Lyse, however, never truly undergoes any drastic pitfalls - even when she 'fails' everything works out perfectly for her. The narrative completely ignores the complete stupidity of her actions, too, such as having her invite someone blindly loyal to Lakshmi into the throne room of Ala Mhigo itself, leading to Lakshmi being summoned once again. Yet because the Warrior of Light is there to save the day there are no actual consequences - none of the visitors who placed their trust in Lyse end up getting Tempered, so yet again the stakes never truly feel high or meaningful.

...and even before that, Meffrid, Conrad and Papalymo all died purely to pave the way for Lyse to end up in a leadership position. I just don't see her ever becoming truly likable or interesting when her obvious flaws are completely ignored. Much like Minfilia, a lot of people simply want her to go away to make room for characters who have more depth.

[Lauront]

Yet because the Warrior of Light is there to save the day there are no actual consequences - none of the visitors who placed their trust in Lyse end up getting Tempered, so yet again the stakes never truly feel high or meaningful.

The WOL... and Fordola.