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    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by WlyemR View Post
    I like the 24 man's, but trying to get a specific piece of gear can be insanely frustrating sometimes. If there was a weekly token system that reset every week, something like 10 runs or so, that let you pick a piece of gear, that would make it feel a bit less futile. When your looking at fifteen runs and no drop, it starts to get ridiculous.
    So your upset for having bad luck with RNG -.-... we all go trough it...best advice go the job you want and don't think about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    RNG
    RNG is the biggest artificial gate to be implemented. RNG is just a poor mans attempt at making something exciting. Yes we all have bad luck but there are other ways to go about it and a token system that they proposed isn't that broken in comparison.
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    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wintersandman View Post
    RNG is the biggest artificial gate to be implemented. RNG is just a poor mans attempt at making something exciting. Yes we all have bad luck but there are other ways to go about it and a token system that they proposed isn't that broken in comparison.
    Then you must really salty I really have had no issue with it and usually get what I'm looking for without trying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    Then you must really salty I really have had no issue with it and usually get what I'm looking for without trying.
    I honestly don't look for gear. I don't do glamour or even BiS. All I do is PvP and I have perma glamour for that set. It is honestly just silly and as nothing to do with being salty. They provided a token system for ex mounts what is the problem with doing it for gear.
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    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wintersandman View Post
    I honestly don't look for gear. I don't do glamour or even BiS. All I do is PvP and I have perma glamour for that set. It is honestly just silly and as nothing to do with being salty. They provided a token system for ex mounts what is the problem with doing it for gear.
    Not really looking for gear but complaining for gear -.-; lets give people a trophy for trying shall we ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    Not really looking for gear but complaining for gear -.-; lets give people a trophy for trying shall we ?
    It's not really a complaint. I was just agreeing with the OP. I am happy that you love RNG.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManuelBravo View Post
    Not really looking for gear but complaining for gear -.-; lets give people a trophy for trying shall we ?
    Well there are tokens for Extremes and Savage content, why not for 24 man ? So that you just do 1 run per week and don't have to be bothered doing 30 or 40 runs to get what you want if all you want is a specific piece (mostly to stuff second jobs btw, sorry but not spending more than one hour per week in 24 man just for seconds).

    Some say people will only go once a week then : well sure, but it's already what some do and if they don't loot anything they're still not going back before next reset. The carrot isn't working anymore.

    Trying to force people to do a precise content (they don't want to do because grew bored of it) because of RNG is old fashioned and I don't walk into that manipulation anymore, and many long time players are starting to avoid that as well. So, might as well put tokens to still have something after 10 runs, so that you still guarantee at least 10 runs will be done by people who want something.

    When you know the goal it's easier to motivate people to go into those instances. When you think "heeeeh there's a tiny little chance what I want drops, but it'll most likely get looted by the lol guy of the team, and I might have to spend an hour pulling out my hair on fights people mess up somehow" , well that doesn't help wanting to go in it.
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    Player ManuelBravo's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karshan View Post
    Well there are tokens for Extremes and Savage content, why not for 24 man ? So that you just do 1 run per week and don't have to be bothered doing 30 or 40 runs to get what you want if all you want is a specific piece (mostly to stuff second jobs btw, sorry but not spending more than one hour per week in 24 man just for seconds).

    Some say people will only go once a week then : well sure, but it's already what some do and if they don't loot anything they're still not going back before next reset. The carrot isn't working anymore.


    Trying to force people to do a precise content (they don't want to do because grew bored of it) because of RNG is old fashioned and I don't walk into that manipulation anymore, and many long time players are starting to avoid that as well. So, might as well put tokens to still have something after 10 runs, so that you still guarantee at least 10 runs will be done by people who want something.

    When you know the goal it's easier to motivate people to go into those instances. When you think "heeeeh there's a tiny little chance what I want drops, but it'll most likely get looted by the lol guy of the team, and I might have to spend an hour pulling out my hair on fights people mess up somehow" , well that doesn't help wanting to go in it.

    While it may be true it motivates you would think that it would help out the queue. For example light grinning for relics, some raids are done for that just because there are hardly any Alex runs now. Rule is once you find what you need you don't really care unless is daily roulette. Why do you think the tokens for extreme runs are 99 for mounts? to force people to do it. Yes it would be nice, however if people really got it right away it would affect queue. There are some of us who really don't need the gear and just lot it to de-synth or for company seals. Then people bitch and complain " Hey your high level why are you needing it?" Same principle I would have to say it may seem sad that people have bad luck, yet I've yet to see one person asking for anything. If people communicate it would not be that hard to get stuff to begin with. If I really need something I ask and really don't have a hard time getting it. Now I can understand the whole token perspective in raids such as savage, however for normal content not really. -.- It's like asking for a trophy just for trying.
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    Last edited by ManuelBravo; 01-24-2018 at 11:36 PM.