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  1. #41
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    basketofseals's Avatar
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    Verrine Mercer
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by alimdia View Post
    I still dont get the logic why some of you people think adding a RP label will fix anything. If they added that label to Balmung non-rp players aren't gonna leave, the server will remain as it is, the only thing gained is increased harassment to RPers in non RP servers and increased harassment to non RPers in Balmung. Another thing is they don't want to create special rules for RP servers.

    All I see is big cons, no pros.
    The point is to efficiently funnel newer players into selected servers. Balmung NEVER would have become the bloated mass it is currently if they had bothered to label two or three servers as designated RP ones. Since there's no official tagging, everyone just got told that Balmung was the RP server. If you wanted to RP, you should go to that server and not look at any others. If Mateus and maybe another server were officially designated RP servers, then newer players(or ones that are just fed up with Balmung things) could start a healthy RP community there.

    WoW has plenty of RP servers, and yes there is a Balmung among them, but there's healthy RP communities spread among all of the other RP servers too.

    Saying it will increase harassment is just fear-mongering. Jerks will be jerks. There's nothing inherent about RP that will trigger some kind of latent toxic personality in an average person. Report/ignore them and move on.
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  2. #42
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    Jijifli Kokofli
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    Arcanist Lv 55
    [QUOTE=Rhysati;4545409Third, the overall community on Balmung as a whole is crumbling with most people's friends lists turning into ghost towns. And yet the doors don't open because those people didn't transfer off. They simply quit playing. Considering we haven't had a queue at all since a couple days after they locked the server down, it would be lovely if we could have people joining again.[/QUOTE]

    People quitting entirely helps to get it unlocked too. You don't have to transfer.

    In case you didn't know, Balmung is the NA server with the least amount of created characters. If it was about how many characters exist we'd be dead last. It's locked because our server activity is the highest. Basically, when people make a character on Balmung, they usually play it, unlike making 8 on Goblin and then ignoring them entirely.
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  3. #43
    Player Kerwin's Avatar
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    Kerwin Nindon
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    Balmung
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    Weaver Lv 90
    The reason why SE does not want to label any servers as RP servers is that it will upset the balance of players on existing worlds.

    For example, I have a house, a great FC and friends on Balmung. I love to RP as well. If SE were to designate Balmung as a non RP server. That would really upset things. Vise versa for our raid scene if Balmung was labeled as an RP server. Raiders would be forced to move and lose their housing and friends in order to move to a more raiding like realm.

    Labeling the servers at this point would cause chaos. So they dont.

    Legacy does not mean anything in regards to this situation. It just mean at the time of the release for ARR, 1.0 players would not saturate the market for new players wishing to establishing their own.
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    Last edited by Kerwin; 01-23-2018 at 03:54 AM.

  4. #44
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    s3ystic's Avatar
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    Unoe Mitsu
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    Leviathan
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    You have too much faith in humanity if you don't think this would lead to harassment on either side of the fence (pro or con.)
    General rule: The reason why games/communities try to reach as neutral-of-a-ground as possible, is because people will always take the opportunity to bully others when given the "means, and justification" to do so. RP-only chats, Parsers, Meta-builds (im talking about MMOs in general who employ this) all attract some of the most obnoxious people, whom while they may be the minority, have a tendency of screaming the longest and loudest. Which in turn mucks-up forums with negativity over "waaaah! sombodey bullied me over X." You think its bad now, HA! it would be so much worse let me assure you. I left 2 other MMOs over such nonsense.

    I digress, might I suggest asking around for a RP-friendly FC. There are plenty out there. I have had the pleasure of playing with a few RPers on Leviathan.
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    Last edited by s3ystic; 01-23-2018 at 04:47 AM.

  5. #45
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    Verisa Solglade
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    Siren
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    Rogue Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by SilverObi View Post
    This is probably coming from a place of frustration since you want to play with your friends. Unfortunately the easiest answer at this time is to coordinate with your friends and agree on a server to play on at the very least in your spare times. Uprooting established characters or starting over completely is not always fun (I enjoy going through the MSQ myself), friends will always come to a compromise to include the group as much as possible. Dedicated RP servers would be fine, but if you think that would keep RPers from filling space on other servers, it really won't and will just lead to shut down servers with continuous trickle to others. Like it is now
    They all have FCs and houses. Like I said I don’t blame them for not wanting to reroll when so much work went into their character.
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  6. #46
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    Novia Marius
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by CSAustin2691 View Post
    I want to so bad but the MSQ kills it for me, it’s that everything is locked behind the massive grind. I’ll try to lvl an alt and get to certain points in the ARR story where I just say F it, I ain’t got time to make goblin cheese, or mess with these snow elfs and their superiority complex.
    If you've got 20ish bucks to spare, it'd probably be easiest to transfer your main. Alternatively the msq skip potions cost 18 (skips to HW) and 25 (skips to SB). MSQ can be painful, I got one for my newest alt just to avoid 2.x's molasses paced story *_*
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  7. #47
    Player Okamimaru's Avatar
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    Rastiana Bel'briar
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    Malboro
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Personally id love a larger RP community on Marlboro... so lets build one!
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  8. #48
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    Maral Malaguld
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    Faerie
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Simple answer: It's too late. They needed to have done so at launch.

    To compare: WoW did this, and it was good; RP communities formed solidly on those servers, and although server identity has long since diluted in that game (for a whole host of reasons) lots of that activity is still kicking, though it can be tricky for new players to get in on it. It worked because they were clear from that get-go what those servers were for, and had lots of time to settle into a routine for a matter of years prior to the changes to the server structure.

    As of now, in FFXIV, others in this thread have explained why places like Balmung and Gilgamesh are, and most likely always will be, the place to find actual RP communities in FFXIV.

    That having been said, don't let this stop you from RPing. Even if it's just running all your messages in raids through a "Jacke from the Rogue's Guild" dialect filter (which is a grand old time lemme tell ya)
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  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jijifli View Post
    People quitting entirely helps to get it unlocked too. You don't have to transfer.

    In case you didn't know, Balmung is the NA server with the least amount of created characters. If it was about how many characters exist we'd be dead last. It's locked because our server activity is the highest. Basically, when people make a character on Balmung, they usually play it, unlike making 8 on Goblin and then ignoring them entirely.
    Most of that is because of bots actually. The teleport spamming bots on other servers that you see en mass run the MSQ for millions a day and then get mass deleted.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mahri View Post
    That having been said, don't let this stop you from RPing. Even if it's just running all your messages in raids through a "Jacke from the Rogue's Guild" dialect filter (which is a grand old time lemme tell ya)

    Can I get a link to this?
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  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by basketofseals View Post
    Can I get a link to this?
    There isn't a specific tool for this, to my awareness. You have to do it on the fly.

    Just look up old London slang and you'll be golden.
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