Enfeeble Spells and Seperating White and Black Mage.

[Seif]

There are plenty of whm only damage spells without watering both mages to grey mages. Anyone who has played a ff title would know this.

[Viridiana]

There are plenty of whm only damage spells without watering both mages to grey mages. Anyone who has played a ff title would know this.

Anyone who's played more than FFXI would know that BLM gets Fire/Ice/Lightning, and that's about it.

[Seif]

Anyone who's played more than FFXI would know that BLM gets Fire/Ice/Lightning, and that's about it.

Not true but with THIS: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Black_Magic list I could easily live with. Hell cut 50% off and we'd still have more than enough choice but still keeping black magic dedicated to one class.

Not a core FF title but even in chocobo's dungeon the gameplay was solo-only but still just the WHM OR BLM classes offered balanced options for combat. It's not that it can't be done the fixes are just too small tweaks to carve out any class identity.

[Viridiana]

Not true but with THIS: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Black_Magic list I could easily live with. Hell cut 50% off and we'd still have more than enough choice but still keeping black magic dedicated to one class.

Not a core FF title but even in chocobo's dungeon the gameplay was solo-only but still just the WHM OR BLM classes offered balanced options for combat. It's not that it can't be done the fixes are just too small tweaks to carve out any class identity.

Going through the by-game magic lists, this is what I found for BLM and WHM damage spells, not counting things under BLM that would never go to WHM (e.g., Meteor, Doom).

BLM:
FFI--Fire/Ice/Lightning
FFII--Fire/Ice/Lightning
FFIII--Fire/Ice/Lightning/Quake
FFIV--Fire/Ice/Lightning/Quake
FFV--Fire/Ice/Lightning
FFVI--Fire/Ice/Lightning/Quake
FFVII--Fire/Ice/Lightning/Quake
FFVIII---Fire/Ice/Lightning/Water/Aero/Quake
FFIX--Fire/Ice/Lightning/Water
FFX--Fire/Ice/Lightning/Water
FFX-2--Fire/Ice/Lightning/Water
FFXI--Fire/Ice/Lightning/Water/Aero/Quake
FFXII--Fire/Ice/Lightning/Aero

WHM:
FFI--Harm/Fade
FFII--Holy/Ultima
FFIII--Aero/Holy
FFIV--Holy
FFV--Holy
FFVI--N/A
FFVII--N/A
FFVIII--N/A
FFIX--Holy
FFX--Holy
FFX-2--N/A
FFXI--All I'm seeing on the wiki is Banish, but that doesn't seem right. . .
FFXII--Holy

So, WHM could've gotten Holy and. . . well, that's about it. People are complaining enough that CNJ only gets two DD spells to level with. Could you imagine if they only had Holy?

That notwithstanding, my point in the post you quoted was that the only consistent elements for BLM are Fire/Ice/Lightning. Water and Quake are each present in about 1/3 games. Aero is even more rare. I never once believed that one class would get all six elements; there simply isn't enough room within the fifteen-ability paradigm they've adopted. Why not give the class that leads to WHM the elements that BLM uses least?

[grandm]

There are plenty of whm only damage spells without watering both mages to grey mages. Anyone who has played a ff title would know this.

class can be used for solo play but jobs will be only for party play, now nobody really knows what this means for the set up for a job, but it does suggest that we will lose some abilities. i.e. if a CON became WHM but didn't lose its nukes, it could still solo. so keeping this in mind i think a white mage will look white not grey. and a black mage will look black. not grey