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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrcyphfeid View Post
    1.) FCs, people that already have houses, and resellers with two and a half weeks worth of dummy FC prep time get unrestricted first crack at housing with a confirmed date and time
    2.) Anyone that does not qualify for Point #1 has to wait. They do not currently, and judging by Christmas 2015 will not period, have a confirmed date nor time when they can join
    3.) Auto-demolition is turned off. If you do not buy from a reseller, or for some inexplicable reason someone relinquishes their plot, you have no avenue to qualify for Point #1

    To me, it's cut and dry. If you wish to gamble on some eleventh hour hail mary, that's fine.


    ...Yes? I'm once again very confused where we're going here. Are we not all just out for our own (read: ourselves and our friends/family)?

    I don't especially care if people here heed my advice/warning, but as I've stated in a previous post I'm pretty insulted by the details Square has given us thus far and feel an obligation - as seen by having more posts in this thread than anyone else - to at least try and give some people a heads-up.


    The price already went up. Square is "playing dirty" insofar that they've legitimately broken their singular promise of making 4.2's house adjustment be fair. Remind me again what's fair about locking people out of housing because they don't already have a plot, and punishing them by not even having the common decency to give them a date or time alongside the one given to FCs/relocators.

    And resellers aren't "thieves." They didn't steal houses from people, they competed alongside everyone else (or bought from other, lowballing resellers) and earned/won them. You may call semantics, but, it's ultimately true.


    I'm sure it'll be drowned out by the forums being blasted to high heaven, but sure, bookmark it and we can contrast accuracy levels FOR SCIENCE! when the dust settles.
    1. FC's actually need them for full functionality. Relocation removes no houses from the empty pool and the problem is people don't have them, not they don't have a large one. I'll concede that the resellers do get a one up as it stands, my hope is there is a hidden restriction. If I'm wrong this will need to be addressed and I will stand and yell as loud as the next person that this isn't the solution.
    2. Yes. Wait for an undetermined amount of time.
    3. we do not know that ALL housing is restricted and it wasn't clarified unfortunately, just speculated that ALL housing would have this restriction. Nobody has shown me that existing wards would have this restriction. This may burn down to a different interpretation style on each side. I don't consider something a given unless explicitly stated.


    I don't see this as unfair. Personal housing is nice (all crossbreeding gardening results can be purchased from other players) , but FC housing is necessary (nobody wants to join a FC without a house) . FC's need their fair crack at housing.

    I'm personally waiting for the "more details" before I pass anymore judgements as I've said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    1. FC's actually need them for full functionality. Relocation removes no houses from the empty pool and the problem is people don't have them, not they don't have a large one. I'll concede that the resellers do get a one up as it stands, my hope is there is a hidden restriction. If I'm wrong this will need to be addressed and I will stand and yell as loud as the next person that this isn't the solution.
    2. Yes. Wait for an undetermined amount of time.
    3. we do not know that ALL housing is restricted and it wasn't clarified unfortunately, just speculated that ALL housing would have this restriction. Nobody has shown me that existing wards would have this restriction. This may burn down to a different interpretation style on each side. I don't consider something a given unless explicitly stated.


    I don't see this as unfair. Personal housing is nice (all crossbreeding gardening results can be purchased from other players) , but FC housing is necessary (nobody wants to join a FC without a house) . FC's need their fair crack at housing.

    I'm personally waiting for the "more details" before I pass anymore judgements as I've said.
    It would be counter productive too apply the restrictions only too the wards in 4.2 and beyond. SE wants to stop people from reselling houses so not applying to current wards as well makes the restrictions pointless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    It would be counter productive too apply the restrictions only too the wards in 4.2 and beyond. SE wants to stop people from reselling houses so not applying to current wards as well makes the restrictions pointless.
    The temporary restriction is for buying personal houses. The server wide change is that you cannot purchase more than 1 personal and 1 FC house per account per server which will now always apply. I fail to see how allowing people to purchase personal houses on old wards makes the restrictions pointless since if they're buying personal houses they won't be able to flip them anyway with the random timed release.


    Quote Originally Posted by Darrcyphfeid View Post

    The fact of the matter is that, if I (as an individual) were to re-up some old accounts, and spend a couple days making investments (time, mostly), I could very much use five service accounts to buy 7 (8 if I were to pawn off my current FC house) FC houses on Feb 6th. There's a very clear workaround in there. Depending on server stability, I'd wager I could nab 4 or 5 medium/large houses if I were so inclined*. This is anecdotal, but I'm familiar with two different groups of people on Faerie that resell houses. I don't know them personally, and do not know what they plan to do (or if they care at all), but the potential for abuse is high.
    how will 5 accounts hold 8 houses unless you grab houses NOW from resellers? I'm honestly curious how this would work.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?