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  1. #151
    Player Beckett's Avatar
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    Beckard Arseneau
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    Paladin Lv 92
    I'm curious if the 4 member FC requirement is ongoing. It's super easy to hire out three people to join an FC for a few minutes while you buy a plot, but much harder to keep those people in your shell FC until the end of time.

    Other than that minor concern, all the new plot purchase changes sound great! (and probably should have been implemented 2 years ago)

    Thanks for grabbing all those new furnishing images, Dusty! Some cool looking stuff there.
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  2. #152
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    Elamys's Avatar
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    Song Sparrow
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    Balmung
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    Goldsmith Lv 90
    The member requirement is most likely only upon purchase as I don't see how they could really enforce it as ongoing, so I imagine we're going to be seeing a lot of shell FCs.
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  3. #153
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    Fox Briarthorn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beckett View Post
    Thanks for grabbing all those new furnishing images, Dusty! Some cool looking stuff there.
    Welcome! Nice to see some of the furniture contest winners being added in-game.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elamys View Post
    The member requirement is most likely only upon purchase as I don't see how they could really enforce it as ongoing, so I imagine we're going to be seeing a lot of shell FCs.
    I'm thinking the same. Just a check at purchase and then nothing further.
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  4. #154
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    Alijana Tumet
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    The likelihood of shell FCs being used to purchase houses is why I'm really hoping they increase membership requirements for purchasing a house.
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  5. #155
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    Alleo's Avatar
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    Light Khah
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    Moogle
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    A German website asked SE if people will lose their old houses with the new system and SE said that they wont answer that question right now..so this reads much more that its still possible that people might lose it because if they dont, why would they not just say it, especially if its true and Yoshida already stated this in the liveletter.

    Also they did wait with the housing informations because they said that they dont want people to get ready for it..no information from yesterday hints at something that people can prepare. The only thing might be the restriction to FC and four members but if that is the information than they already gave it out way to early since people can prepare that..so either they went against their own words and already told us everything or the most important information is still locked up..which would be: what happens with the old houses? If they would have told us that people will lose it, they could have tried to sell them until the patch so not telling them would mean that they keep their houses thus prevents them from getting too much Gil out of this. This just feels like a good plan from their side and would also explain why they need a whole website for this.

    (And lets not forget that the housing timer did not exist from the beginning too and people bought their houses with the knowledge that they can keep it. Yet when the timer came, every house was put under that rule. So it would be only fair if that new rule will be used on old houses too, otherwise the timer should have just been for newer houses.)
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    Last edited by Alleo; 01-20-2018 at 10:51 PM.

  6. #156
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    SokiYagami's Avatar
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    Soki Yagami
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dustytome View Post
    Ok I think that's all of it. Let me know if I missed something. I'm really surprised they gave out information on the housing purchase changes beforehand. This is going to put the housing markets into a flurry up until patch day. Plots being available for relocation immediately after demo is still going to allow people to snipe premium plots to sell for relocation.

    So that first horrible resolution picture (sorry!) with all the furniture on it, it looks like:
    weird pickle cart
    baguette basket
    new fruit/veggie/something basket
    new booze bottles?
    moogle wall clock
    faux brick patch (hopefully one long enough to go across an entire partition, if it's just that small square that's going to eat up precious slots!)
    new floor lamp
    new housing npcs
    new chandelier
    glowing floaty light things?

    Can't really make out much more in that one. The second one just looks like new floor beds, a new fish tank and a new wall decoration.
    Thanks for the effort as always dusty! Such a good popoto~ /pet pet pet pet pet XD

    On top of what you've already mentioned, I think I saw a snake NPC and what appears to be a half-sized mannequin (by the window)? I tried my best to examine the brick patch, I think it's a square-shaped wall mount with a length of 1 full partition and can be clipped into stuff. Reason being the overlapping just seems too perfect if there's more than one of them put side-by-side. The glowing-floating thing may also be dyeable, seeing how both of them are of different colors.

    The wall mount in the final picture appears to be Japanese Oni Mask (within a frame, why designer??)

    Love the furniture competition winner's idea being utilized, but I kind of think the slot for bomb stove should had been given to other designs instead. Just my personal opinion though.

    And finally... NEW PARTITION THAT ALSO EXTEND DOWNWARDS FROM THE CEILING! PRAISE THE TWELVE AND THE DESIGNER WHO CAME UP WITH IT! THANK YOU!! :3

    ...now if only we can get it in all 4 town + blank partition version of it as well.
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    Last edited by SokiYagami; 01-20-2018 at 10:51 PM.

  7. #157
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    Lena Vales
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    Oo nice new furniture we are getting. Kinda upset the new bathtub and other plant items didn't make it though.
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  8. #158
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    Lucien Reed
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    Dark Knight Lv 70
    Any news on apartments? Can the same character own both a house and an apartment?
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  9. #159
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    Lissandra Heartwine
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    Balmung
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluah View Post
    Any news on apartments? Can the same character own both a house and an apartment?
    Yes, you can. They are separate things.
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  10. #160
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    Scott Pilgrim
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    why would they not just say it
    Because that's an absolute and could be for multitude of reasons:
    • The person at SE Germany who was asked simply has no idea of the answer as that'll be decided by SE Japan.
    • SE literally haven't decided yet or they don't want to commit to a choice (as we've seen in the past every time they say something that isn't delivered, pitchforks get raised by the community).
    • There's currently a community mob demanding people lose their additional houses, them not confirming either way is a much more diplomatic answer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    no information from yesterday hints at something that people can prepare.
    Yes it did:
    • People who previously bought houses to sell now know to offload them before the 29th.
    • People who wanted to purchase personal houses in 4.2 now know to try and get hold of anything they can so they can relocate with 4.2 (as outright personal purchases won't work, but relocating will).

    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    the most important information is still locked up..which would be: what happens with the old houses?
    Yoshida said on the live stream that they wouldn't be removed.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...nally/dsxeu82/

    I don't speak Japanese myself, but multiple other people have now confirmed that's what he said.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    would also explain why they need a whole website for this.
    For posts like yours where people missed out on some of the information Website would put it all in one place.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    So it would be only fair if that new rule will be used on old houses too
    The housing timer you have a chance to actually save your house (just use it...). What you're suggesting isn't really the same thing as it doesn't give the actual player (who didn't do anything wrong...) that option.
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