some suggest for summoner

[Savagelf]

enkinde and bahumat enkindle be merge in one command

when we have carbruncle out enkinde is simple enkind but when bahumat is out enkindle become bahumat enkinde

Dreadwyrem trance and deathflare while under dreadwryem trance deathflare become dreadwyrem trance
demi Egi has same ranger time as bahumat does to summon
some other future suggest for expand on bahumat summon
Demi-Garuda windy Ruin 3 Whispering Wind
Demi-Titan earthly Ruin 3 sheild the summoner for limit damage
Demi Ifrits Flame ruin 3 Hell fire
Demi Shiva Icey Ruin 3 Diamand Dust
Demi Ramuh thundering ruin 3 Judgement bolts
every time summoner use they enkinde the gain up 3 stack they get ability summon one demi
Remove Egi and replace them with carbruncle. add two new carbruncle Diamand Carbruncle and Amystrel Carbruncle
while summon one of Demi ruin 3 become elemental base ruin 3

[Grimoire-M]

SMN doesn't need any buffs atm. I'm all for the button consolidation suggestions but the extra egis would take too much development time and probably add damage that it doesn't need.

[Caduagm]

SMN doesn't need any buffs atm. I'm all for the button consolidation suggestions but the extra egis would take too much development time and probably add damage that it doesn't need.

Did OP mention buffs? Jesus... Can you stop with that?

[Grimoire-M]

Did OP mention buffs? Jesus... Can you stop with that?

Only if you stop getting mad for no reason. :P

Anyways, best I could tell is he's aligning Ruin III with an element based on the egi out, which is unnecessary flavor. However, one of his suggestions is to make bahamut into an Egi...which is a buff given how strong Bahamut is atm. :P

[Exodus-E]

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Two things:

1) Removing the concept of "Egi" at this point is impossible, since it's deeply rooted in this game's lore (as well as its status being officially cemented within the Encyclopedia Eorzea).
"Summoners" don't actually summon; what they actually do is create aetherial constructs based off Primals that they were present for at the moment of their dispersion.
Said constructs are called: "Egi" (ie. essence of a Primal).

2) Even if (for some bizarre/far-fetched) reason they removed the Egi concept and replaced them with regular Carbuncles and more "Trances", we would still run into the problem that your idea would only cover a limited number of Primals.
Instead of, you know, every single one that was released post-ARR (ex. Ravana, Bismarck, the Warring Triad, etc.).

So...I'm gonna have to completely disagree with your suggestion there.

Egi-glamours are definitely the way forward from here on out (so we can finally get Egi(s) of Primals we've been missing for years now).

[TraeSnow]

Egi-glamours are definitely the way forward from here on out (so we can finally get Egi(s) of Primals we've been missing for years now).

Egi glamours. :c Don't make me cry. The carbuncle glamours were a joke at best (Since the models were basically already in the game, so they did little to no work yet said glamours were delayed so long due how long it takes to create them). Years later, summoner still have no actual new egi's to summon, even with 2 expansions. Sorry >.> Egi glamours are a moot point with me. I've been wanting Shiva egi since her release v-v One day...

[EllieShadeflare]

Honestly, I'd prefer retuning the Egis into a pseudo Song mechanic instead of them being full fledged pets. They're kinda clunky as is, most people already use them on Sic and would honestly fit the them.

You don't even need to change their appearance or lore, just... don't make them pets and make them closer to Demi Bahamut, control wise.

[Remedi]

They probably should make 1 egi the aoe one and the other a st variant, it's kinda impossible to balance them out to be both viable in st

[Exodus-E]

Egi glamours. :c Don't make me cry. The carbuncle glamours were a joke at best (Since the models were basically already in the game, so they did little to no work yet said glamours were delayed so long due how long it takes to create them). Years later, summoner still have no actual new egi's to summon, even with 2 expansions. Sorry >.> Egi glamours are a moot point with me. I've been wanting Shiva egi since her release v-v One day...

Believe me: I feel your pain.

I also have been waiting a very, very long time for more Egi (given how limited our summoning repertoire was).
Thus, when they announced that they'd go with the concept of "Egi glamours" moving forward, I was actually both pleased and hopeful.

Which is why I'm currently frustrated that the devs haven't disclosed how they're gonna implement them (since the Carbuncle route they went with won't cut it for other Egi) or even given a concrete release date after being pushed back for so long (an actual "estimate" would be nice).

And no: as impressive/fun as the whole "Dreadwyrm Trance"/"Demi-Bahamut" can be, it still doesn't change the fact that we've been missing on a lot of Egi post-2.0 ...

[Shiroe]

on the ps4, we have some real button issues.. (not many buttons)

can "Summon Bahamut" and "Enkindle Bahamut" use the same button pleeeeease?... even if its only one button we can save, it would help a lot