What are the most common reasons people don't dps?

[Lyrica_Ashtine]

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The stance you both are taking is hypocrisy at it's finest and you're just reflecting the "stigma" back at them - Which isn't even a stigma at all as far as I am concerned. The whole premise of the healer DPS debate is about effort. Not about "covering each other's asses". Unless you're claiming that it's fine to be either doing nothing (idle) or it's fine to spam that healing button even though no one needs healing (pointless effort). If it wasn't about effort then damage dealers can just spam that one damage button or that one particular part of their rotation.

DPS and Tank roles had their own share of flak as well concerning effort. So don't feel so victimized on that part: Flank monks, Ice mages, Tanks that stay in their tank stances, summoners using pets on sic, Bards that don't sing, and probably some more that I missed out on since the launch. There was even one instance of muscle mage* being mentioned on Reddit. But I'm pretty sure that's pure satire as a jab at those "bad dps ass". Unless you're fine with healers exerting no to little effort, then you should be fine with these too, right? They put in just as much effort. Or for a more measurable approach lets use GCDs: If you spend 100 GCDs healing and 200 GCDs idle, you wouldn't mind a DPS spending 200 GCDs idling either, right?

* This whole post on reddit was amazing, by the way. For those interested: https://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/comme...ages_were_bad/

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You are again missing the point and mischaracterizing the discussion. Problem players generally don’t care enough even to read the forums, so none of this is for their benefit.

This discussion is about gameplay, not specifically about shaming players who are willfully bad. However, players who are interested in elevating their gameplay but who weren’t previously aware of how they could do so may find some value.

So I was talking about not putting in effort. I guess that's not limited to their role in these parts of the forum, right?