SE: if it aint broke, dont fix it (War)

[Chrono_Rising]

I edited my post above. I pulled up the ffxiv guide and it had it differently from gamerscape. Which probably also changed it in game during 4.05 warrior changes.

I agree but I still think something is fishy with the way its calculating its damage gains somewhere.

If it raised your damage on the skill by 25% then I would expect that the damage reduction from tank stance would make the skill be exactly where it was (1.25*.8=1), I would also expect thrill of battle to roughly emulate the dps gain that deliverance does (since there is only a 5% difference in the HP raising effects between those skills). But neither of those things are true. Which leads me to wonder what the game is actually doing to calculate the HP bonus from those skills.

[Wintersandman]

I agree but I still think something is fishy with the way its calculating its damage gains somewhere.

I agree but I still think something is fishy with the way its calculating its damage gains somewhere.

So I found it on the updates in 4.1. Here is the note under resolved issues.

An issue wherein the description for the warrior action Upheaval stated "Ignores the damage penalty inflicted by Defiance."
* The above sentence has been removed, and the action's effects remain unchanged.

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...04942848db9539

Also I agree with your analysis. Currently it is ignoring the 20% damage penalty if you just look at the HP modifier. Doing the math that Ramza generated with his numbers. It is a 25% gain not a 1 for 1 swap and thus ignoring the 20% damage penalty.