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  1. #13801
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    This morning, I decided to run an expert roulette on SMN, and to my surprise, ended up in Thordan Ex. I keep forgetting that these EX fights still pop up in the DF, but what shocked me even more was that the moment I loaded in, Thordan was already casting Dragon’s Gaze. Needless to say, we didn’t make it far – the group died to burning chains.

    When we restarted, I posed a question: what happened to the DPS I replaced? Whomever it was had suddenly dropped. One of the players said they had accidentally queued for this one instead of normal Thordan. The thing was…the only people who knew how to actually fight this battle, based on the next two pulls, were myself and a fellow mentor who was on a tank. I don’t think anybody else expected Thordan Ex to be as hard as it was – by the time we hit Ancient Quaga on each pull, there were at least three dead party members, one of them usually being a healer.

    They even failed the burning chains mechanic.

    I decided I was going to stick around and help them out. I had a mentor backing me up, and even though he wasn’t really helping me explain mechanics (asked him a few times on certain things for clarification, but he didn’t respond).

    I told the group to focus more on mechanics and what I advised them on, and we’ll revisit things once we get past the burning chains + towers mechanic. Just as I gave the go-ahead, the other mentor told the group that they were going to clear this and they needed to try this in the PF…and then he left. He wasn’t exactly wrong…

    …but I felt embarrassed. Dude, you’re a mentor. Don’t just leave them with that and abandon them like that. So I told the group I could try to requeue in as a tank – at the very least, I could handle some of the bigger mechanics. Told them to hold on, backed out, requeued….and could not get back in.

    For those of you who were with me in that run, I’m sorry I couldn’t requeue and help you guys out. I was 100% willing to stay with you and help you with the fight. Also, that other mentor is not how we are…that was just a bad showing on his part.
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  2. #13802
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    Dr Yeol
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    Told them to hold on, backed out, requeued….and could not get back in.

    For those of you who were with me in that run, I’m sorry I couldn’t requeue and help you guys out.
    This kept happening to me recently as well.
    Did they change something about joining in-progress?

    Someone in 24-man left as a DPs because he wanted to re-queue as a healer but couldn't.
    Same thing happened to me, I left as healer to re-queue as a tank but ended up waiting..

    Is it possible that if you leave you won't be joining the same alliance/party?
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  3. #13803
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yeol View Post
    This kept happening to me recently as well.
    Did they change something about joining in-progress?

    Someone in 24-man left as a DPs because he wanted to re-queue as a healer but couldn't.
    Same thing happened to me, I left as healer to re-queue as a tank but ended up waiting..

    Is it possible that if you leave you won't be joining the same alliance/party?
    It's possible that either they vote abandoned, or another tank managed to get in
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  4. #13804
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    Ethan Vayne
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
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    This was changed about 2 years ago or something to that effect. Basically, you cannot re-queue into the same duty you left. This is an unfortunate side-effect of people not wanting those who they kicked to rejoin the same duty due to harassment. It unfortunately affects those who leave to re-queue as another role as well.
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    Baby, tell me, what's your motive?

  5. #13805
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaivaC View Post
    And oh yes, feel free to ignore the false god telling you to flee and not stop, even though it was definitely a false god with the red eyes – so you can DPS more (though to be honest, I’m confused by that mechanic when a false god tells you…like, how do you pass it if you aren’t supposed to listen to false gods).
    This mechanic is easy, just slightly confusing. So the god is giving out divine commands that must be obeyed. However, when he's the false god hes trying to trick you by telling you the opposite of what you should do. So for the blue eyed "truth" god, turn means be looking away when the timer runs out, and scatter means be moving when the timer runs out. For the red eyed "false" god you do the opposite - face him for turn(really just keep attacking normally since that already means youre facing him) and stand completely still for scatter(sheath your weapon and everything). Not too hard.
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  6. #13806
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    Quote Originally Posted by ErryK View Post
    This was changed about 2 years ago or something to that effect. Basically, you cannot re-queue into the same duty you left. This is an unfortunate side-effect of people not wanting those who they kicked to rejoin the same duty due to harassment. It unfortunately affects those who leave to re-queue as another role as well.
    That’s not true at all. I’ve queued back into groups I’ve left with the intent on filling a tank or healer role. If you are removed from a group you can’t queue back into that group.
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  7. #13807
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonfish View Post
    That’s not true at all.
    Except, it is to some effect. YMMV, I suppose.
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    Baby, tell me, what's your motive?

  8. #13808
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    Cecelia Stormfeather
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frizze View Post
    This mechanic is easy, just slightly confusing. So the god is giving out divine commands that must be obeyed. However, when he's the false god hes trying to trick you by telling you the opposite of what you should do. So for the blue eyed "truth" god, turn means be looking away when the timer runs out, and scatter means be moving when the timer runs out. For the red eyed "false" god you do the opposite - face him for turn(really just keep attacking normally since that already means youre facing him) and stand completely still for scatter(sheath your weapon and everything). Not too hard.
    The sheathe your weapon part is important on this. You need to be doing nothing. Not moving, not attacking, nothing. I just hit ESC a couple times and that untargets and stops everything nicely.

    My favorite one is the false god "look away". That's when you get to go full DPS.
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    Survivor of Housing Savage 2018.
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  9. #13809
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    Duvvvv Starflux
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    done mostly lowbie DR stuff today as I'm leveling my RDM; my stories are about awesome WAR.
    first, had the smoothest Dzemael Darkhold run in recent memory, big pulls, awesome WHM too, but I embarrassed myself when I fell off a cliff after I cast displacement xD took note not to do it in that area next time

    then a bit of an awkward Hullbreaker Isle run, I was disappointed on our SCH. at the beginning he told our tank to pull more. but at 2nd boss he and SAM didn't get in bubble in time, then eventually I followed, so tank carried us next trash mobs, tank pulled bigger but I've noticed he only gets lustrate and we hardly get any heal apart from Eos. then it got worse when at last trash pull the tank died taking the rest of the party :P SCH said "can you tell I just woke up?" so I retorted "eh, you did say to pull big" his reply? "because I can" I just rolled my eyes and said no more
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  10. #13810
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    Crimson Law
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tridus View Post
    The sheathe your weapon part is important on this. You need to be doing nothing. Not moving, not attacking, nothing. I just hit ESC a couple times and that untargets and stops everything nicely.

    My favorite one is the false god "look away". That's when you get to go full DPS.
    Oh yeah, a lot of people forget to simply untarget him for that. As long as you untarget, you don't even need to worry about sheathing your weapon as you can't auto-attack unless you've targeted an enemy. Fortunately, that mechanic doesn't throw people off as much as it used to. The worst part of that fight is getting people to place the swords correctly when they're marked.
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