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  1. #13781
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    Driskus's Avatar
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    Driskus Blackstone
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Had a run in Doma Castle last night where the tank wouldn't even face the first colossus away from the group. One of the DPS dies because of the untelegraphed frontal AoE that always faces the tank. I mention to keep it faced away from the group. The DPS get hostile with me and say its fine for it to face the group because it always faces a random player. Sure, the big telegraphed cone AoE does, but not the untelegraphed line one. They still denied it like I was at fault (I was healer), so I left before we even got to the first boss. I knew that run would have been terrible if I had stayed considering the tank can't even position himself properly.
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  2. #13782
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    Spiroglyph's Avatar
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    Soft Boiled
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    Phoenix
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by HipiraVon-Horrificus View Post
    I get that this can be solo-healed, but I'm not going to carry you.
    I have to commend your patience; I don't think I'd have lasted past the second boss without trying for a kick or leaving myself. It's one thing for an instance to be easy enough to keyboard face-smash, it's another to rely on this to be purposefully unhelpful. :/

    The emotes were just blatant trolling, though, why even...
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  3. #13783
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    Griffey's Avatar
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    Alpha Bongo
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    Cerberus
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    There is someone who plays CNJ on the Chaos data centre that I have had the displeasure of partying with now on three separate occasions- once in Rabanastre, one expert, and last night on O4 normal. When asked why he doesn't have a soul crystal, and hence missing half his skillset, he just replies with obtuse 'just leave'. Oh, and we wiped on the first pack in expert (ala Mihgo nonetheless) and couldn't clear Exdeath because he couldn't keep up with the heals.

    The worst thing about it is he has augmented lost Allagan and Ivalician gear, which means that people have actually tolerated and carried him through content.
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  4. #13784
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    Kacho_Nacho's Avatar
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    Kacho Nacho
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 98
    Quote Originally Posted by Griffey View Post
    There is someone who plays CNJ on the Chaos data centre that I have had the displeasure of partying with now on three separate occasions- once in Rabanastre, one expert, and last night on O4 normal. When asked why he doesn't have a soul crystal, and hence missing half his skillset, he just replies with obtuse 'just leave'. Oh, and we wiped on the first pack in expert (ala Mihgo nonetheless) and couldn't clear Exdeath because he couldn't keep up with the heals.

    The worst thing about it is he has augmented lost Allagan and Ivalician gear, which means that people have actually tolerated and carried him through content.
    Ugh. That's just laziness served up on a hot plate there.
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  5. #13785
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    killstein's Avatar
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    Ishgard
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    Ark Vuilocand
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 80
    had a really crappy tank in temple, their first 70 (but not first tank) that came with antiquated warrior gear and below 70 right side. they insisted we pull big and obviously the tank melted bc 1) lack of cds and 2) our healer wasn't the best geared-- tbh none of us were, so things were dying slow, we wiped twice, etc.

    we get to the closed fist and the tank starts backtracking, pulling mobs out of the room?? (i have no clue why) they pulled them so far, the mobs ran back to where they were previously regaining all their health and we had to start over. then they have the gall to vote kick the healer right before the final boss to which i said no but it still went through. we wrap up, i q again and i'm paired with our previous healer. i apologise to them and tbh they were great the entire run!!! gave em my comm, they deserved it.
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  6. #13786
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    Chortle's Avatar
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    Azealia Banks
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    Gilgamesh
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    Astrologian Lv 76
    Holy moly... here we go.

    I am farming dailies to get crystal sand for my Astrologian Anima weapon quest so I queued up leveling roulette since it gives company seals and also counted for my WT. Got Temple of Quarn. Not the best dungeon since I find it somewhat boring, but luck of the draw I suppose. Enter in 3 new sprouties. I am optimistic and wanted to ensure these guys had a great run! Until we started the first pull. Dps seemed extremely low. I wasn't sure why since we had a Samurai and Black Mage, but I let it slide. I notice the Sam starts most of the pulls instead of letting the Pally take the initiative. Hrm, don't like when people do that, but whatever I am not letting anyone die so it doesn't matter I suppose. Enter first boss Teratotaur. First wipe is from no one killing the bees. No big deal, maybe they didn't know... I advise them to kill bees first to avoid "final sting" and we try again. Then comes the doom.. no other player clears their doom on the tiles. So I pop swiftcast and rez on the tank. I die to final sting and we wipe again. I tell them to step on the tiles to clear their doom stacks... no response. Round 3. The PAL and BLM clear their dooms and are focusing the bees. SAM however is just focusing boss and dying to doom. I mark bees with "A" and whichever tile is active with "B" when doom is cast. Since Sam is a waste of time, I keep him dead knowing he will just die again anyway. This was seriously the lowest dps I have seen in this dungeon. We failed again after the PAL and BLM missed a doom clear. Afterwards, I check their gear and they are all in 50+ gear. I asked them "What happened?" and the paladin finally responded with "The SAM was dead for a long time."

    Idk how these guys got so far in the game. Maybe they were bots. Maybe they bought progression to 50, but damn. That was too much of a headache for me. I took the L and left.
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  7. #13787
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    Driskus's Avatar
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    Driskus Blackstone
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    Coeurl
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    White Mage Lv 70
    Another piping-hot dish of elitist mentor harassment coming right up:

    I queue into Bardam's Mettle as WHM, get A PLD (mentor), BRD , and a NIN (mentor). I'm immediately on alert since I see FAR more bad mentors than good ones. The PLD darts off ahead of the group as soon as I cast Protectthough everytthing seems fine until we get to the first boss, where the PLD ends up locking out the NIN. We kill the boss, although it took a bit longer than usual. On the 2nd pull after the boss, the PLD pulls both groups, and that's when the mentor PLD shows his true colors. He pops Hallowed Ground once his CDs wear off, then after the mobs are dead, he starts trashing the BRD for not using the LB to finish off the mobs. He was complaining that he had to switch back to Shield Oath because of the mobs not being dead already. I had waited till his CDs wore to start my Holy spam as those 2 packs of mobs hit like runaway trucks, and the extra 10s or so of mitigation would have allowed him to stay in Sword Oath for the rest of the pull. The BRD replies saying it wasn't necessary (it wasn't, and the PLD would have been totally fine even without Hallowed Ground due to the Holy stuns). The tank at this point just stops moving while he continues to harass the BRD. the three of us go ahead and do the 2nd boss without the PLD since he's not needed). At this point, I politely ask if we can just finish the dungeon instead of complaining over nothing. I get ignored, and at this point I start a votekick against the PLD hoping that it goes through. It somehow doesn't, and the tank pulls the first group of mobs after the 2nd boss and just sits there spamming Flash the entire time. After that he's still trying to harass the BRD, and me and the BRD go ahead and pull the next couple packs ourselves, with the NIN eventually helping. We get through that without too much trouble while we wait on the loot timer to run out so we can try to votekick the PLD again. By the time we got the votekick to go through, we were already waiting at the final boss. NIN gets us a tank after that and we finish off the boss with no problem.

    I sure hope that PLD loses his mentor status permanently, as he's the exact reason why people don't think very highly of players with the crown. Sure, if not using that LB would have wiped us, by all means let the BRD know politely that using it may have saved us from a wipe. Though if the tank is topped off and the mobs are literally melting, its really not necessary, and I wouldn't expect the BRD to use it either.
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  8. #13788
    Player MoroMurasaki's Avatar
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    Moro Murasaki
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    Zalera
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 80
    I'm using Diversion before my melee combo. When that isn't up I'm using Lucid after my melee combo. Despite all of that enmity reduction I am still finding myself tanking on RDM far more than I would like.

    If this were a one-off kind of thing I wouldn't be that annoyed by it but over the past few days I've ran quite a few roulettes as RDM between my main and my alt, some of the bosses I've kept enmity on for an unacceptable length of time are...
    • King Behemoth in LotA
    • The Coincounter in Aurum Vale
    • the Griffin at the end of Dusk Vigil
    • Every boss in The Vault

    Why tank friends? What did I do to you to make you hate me so? My squishy RDM armor isn't designed to get clubbed/clawed/stabbed/smashed, it's mostly just there to look pretty. I understand RDM is bursty and I feel like I'm doing my part in mitigating this but as a psa to all tanks out there - even my average RDM DPS is worth more than your gain from avoiding your threat combo. If I die to a boss's auto attacks it is a DPS loss every time even if you're a 100th percentile tank. I understand being agressive and toeing the line but maybe it's time to scale it back.
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  9. #13789
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    Talk about irony. I finally leveled up SMN to lvl 70 and took it into Rabanastre, since I needed some pants to replace the 310 caster legs I’ve been unable to replace for over a month. And died more times than I have ever been comfortable with – a good portion of those deaths were my fault. Yes, Kaiva, it is perfectly alright to be curious why you can’t see Hashmal, when he’s standing right behind you about to charge across the middle of the boss arena. Oh yea, Kaiva, go right ahead and run right into a hidden binding trap so Rofocale can hit you with that huge AOE after his Trample. And oh yes, feel free to ignore the false god telling you to flee and not stop, even though it was definitely a false god with the red eyes – so you can DPS more (though to be honest, I’m confused by that mechanic when a false god tells you…like, how do you pass it if you aren’t supposed to listen to false gods).

    That being said, I’m noticing something of a trend here, and this falls on healers in 24-mans. Is it difficult to keep everyone relatively healed? My alliance healers…I dunno what they were doing. Even accounting for the fact that everyone is spread out, the healers were not really healing that much. In fact, they weren’t really DPS’ing much either, so I dunno what they were doing. I’ve noticed this a lot happening in a lot of 24-mans, lately. Healers would both ignore pretty much their main role and focus hard on DPS. I’m not even talking about just Rabanastre – I’ve seen this happening all week in the Void Ark (someone, both of the healers in my alliance were killed by the very first void death), Syrcus Tower, and most recently, in O1S.

    They wouldn’t even rez people in our alliance. Case in point, the tank messed up and didn’t grab an add during the Mateus fight and it zeroes in on a healer – so I DPS’ed the hell out of it to pull aggro – our tank is not even registering on the aggro list. I kited it around for a good 10 seconds before it finally killed me. I guess the tank noticed and finally provoked it…but neither healer would rez. At all. It was like that for the whole Rabanastre run.

    Anybody noticing this lately? Healers that don’t want to heal or rez?
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  10. #13790
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    I love it when people mess up and blame you for them dying.. when they choose to tank things in the middle of the room in the level 47 dungeon without going to the wall, getting the attention of the frog and all his friends which in turn kill you all. Yet this tank blames me for it. I guess it's easy to blame the dps for everything when you mess up, and go into a 47 dungeon with level 20 gear on. Yet it's my fault? Then to have the healer give all the balances to everyone else but me yet I'm the one aoeing, using trick attack on the bosses, keeping my buffs up. But I guess it's my fault cause the crappy undergeared tank who left after running in undergeared and not holding hate said it was my fault. I need a smoke after that.
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